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From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 March 2002 01:28
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PEN-L:23950] Re: marx's proof regarding surplus value and
profit
. So, let's call a halt to
this.
sorry; ifI could withdraw my previous reply to it I
If you want more specificity, consider another two-good economy.
Sector A produces 10 units of A, using 9 units of A and 1 unit of
labor. Sector B produces 3 units of B, using up 2 units of A and
1 unit of labor. So there's a positive net product of B, 3 units,
and a negative net product of A,
On 2002.03.14 01:26 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In this, Roemer remains in the sphere of ownership, and forgets the sphere
of production. For producing profits material production must be presumed.
And for production, many firms must interact with each other and exchange
Justin wrote: Andrew, I haven't the energy or inclination to
debate with you or Charles on
the matter. I've read your work and learned from it, but I don't
agree.
-- No one is asking you to agree with any matter of substance. I
don't care whether you do or not. Theory is not a popularity
This is in reply to Daniel Davies.
People should really consult my paper. I answer these kinds of
objections in it.
Why would anyone carry out production of a good worth half as
much as its inputs?
They wouldn't, not knowingly. That's not what's at issue here.
Consider the following
The Financial Express
March 14, 2002
Indonesian Apex Bank Governor Convicted
Jakarta, March 13: An Indonesian court on Wednesday sentenced central bank
governor Sjahril Sabirin to three years in jail for corruption over a
long-running banking scandal.
Defendant Sjahril Sabirin is legally
marx's proof regarding surplus value and profit
Drewk,
From what you explain, it seems to me you might want to say that Marx is being
mischaracterized or distorted, rather than suppressed. Although, there was to be a
book burning of Russian books in D.C. recently (? :)), I think that Marx's
Japan / what is optimum growth ?
by Ian Murray
14 March 2002 00:30 UTC
The Japan Times: March 14, 2002
EDITORIAL
Thursday, March 14, 2002
JAPANESE DISTORTIONS
A demand-starved economy
By GREGORY CLARK
^^
CB: There is an ongoing claim by many economists that the Japanese economy
The following are neutral questions as I have nothing vested at all in any
previous models of Marx's value theory. I do have
problems with models of the sort that Andrew K thinks are invalid.
In response to Daniel D's:
Why would anyone carry out production of a good worth half as
much as its
Andrew,
Could you send me your email address ?
Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
testing
Jim Devine
Dear Pen-Lrs,
Please circulate the following job announcement and/or inform interested
persons. We will be hiring two editors in the next few months, one to start
in May, the other to start no later than August 1.
thank you--
Dollars Sense: The Magazine of Economic Justice. Editor needed
While you have Andrew send e-mail addy to you Chaz, ask the
obnoxious comrade if he is still a member of News Letters.
You too should have a good dialogue in state capitalism in ther
fSU and Raya Dunayevskaya on Hegel.
Michael, the obnoxious, Pugliese
News and Letters
... Tahmeena Faryal
In related news, today Hell froze over.
PPIC aspires to be the Brookings of the West.
At this rate they'll never make it.
-mbs
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From: Industrial Relations Research Association
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel J.B. Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002
Dr. Kliman has raised some issues regarding the
meaningfulness of the term physical surplus. Although I disagree
with Dr. Kliman, I think he has raised two points of great interest.
These are
(1) Whether it is meaningful to talk about a phyical quantity that
cannot be measured by a
I am quite curious to know whether they will start offering
courses on shredding in the accounting departments of the
business schools?
Sabri
P.S: This joke belongs to someone else, who is on this list, so I
acknowledge his priority.
Top Financial News
03/14 15:57
Andersen Is
LETTERS TO THE EDITOR: Mystery of about-turn on Argentina
Financial Times; Mar 12, 2002
By MATIAS VERNENGO
From Matias Vernengo.
Sir, Back in February 1997, Professor Rudiger Dornbusch said: Argentina is on
the go - (it) is the only country in the world today that enjoys both price
stability
Sabri writes: I am quite curious to know whether they will start offering
courses on shredding in the accounting departments of the business schools?
this reminds me: it's been reported that the Anderson/Enron [Anderon?
Enderson?] scandals have made accounting a sexier and thus more popular
From the letter Charles sent:
Also, it must be noted that suggesting a foreign
board of central bankers to control monetary policy,
and another foreign board to verify fiscal performance,
is tantamount to suggesting colonisation of Argentina
by foreign agents. The question then is whether
I am sure that he still is.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 10:46:58AM -0800, michael pugliese wrote:
While you have Andrew send e-mail addy to you Chaz, ask the
obnoxious comrade if he is still a member of News Letters.
You too should have a good dialogue in state capitalism in ther
fSU and
The question then is whether Argentina should be returned to Spain. Or
does Prof Dornbusch have another suggestion?
Obviously, Argentina should be returned to its native populations.
JD
I thought that the message that I received was sent to me off list.
Obviously, such a personal characterization of any member obnoxious has
no business here. That can start a stupid flame war.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 02:03:07PM -0800, Michael Perelman wrote:
I am sure that he still is.
On
And the Malvinas go to ... ?
Gene C
Devine, James wrote:
The question then is whether Argentina should be returned to Spain. Or
does Prof Dornbusch have another suggestion?
Obviously, Argentina should be returned to its native populations.
JD
Let's suppose that X claims that if people believe strongly enough in the
power of the deity Shazam that enemy bullets will not harm them when they
go into battle. I point out that as a matter of fact lots of believers in
Shazam have been killed by enemy bullets in battle. A defender of Shazam
this reminds me: it's been reported that the
Anderson/Enron [Anderon?Enderson?] scandals
have made accounting a sexier and thus more
popular college major.
Jim D.
Jim,
This is for sure. A friend, who is a professor of accounting at
Stanford, told me that there was a 40% increase in
Hasn't Neumark discredited himself enough working with Berman?
Max Sawicky wrote:
In related news, today Hell froze over.
PPIC aspires to be the Brookings of the West.
At this rate they'll never make it.
-mbs
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From: Industrial Relations Research Association
Gene C writes: And the Malvinas go to ... ?
me.
(Leopold, King of the Belgians.)
Well some people would say he didn't need any help.
I'm not into that literature, so I couldn't say.
But you know people who are, who could.
mbs
Hasn't Neumark discredited himself enough working with Berman?
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From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm worrying: suppose that they start operating on people,
putting little
chips in their heads so that they can think to control their
computers.
What's the neurological equivalent of an MS Windows Blue Screen?
would one
need
Venezuela: Next Chile?
By John Pilger
He has won two elections, and
he has made a start on relieving poverty. So now the US wants to get rid of Venezuela's president Chavez.
Almost 30 years after the violent destruction of the reformist government of
Salvador Allende in Chile, a
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A new Institute for Soldier Nanotechnologies was created on
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years. The institute has a remit to
The
International Monetary Fund has indicated it supports a transitional government
for Venezuela. The Caracas daily El Nacional says the IMF is willing to
bankroll those who remove Chavez from office.
they actually said theyd support a transitional
government?
Jim D.
Interesting, isn't it? If Andersen goes down, there will be less
competition and less incentive among the remaining four, say our
lovely commentators at the Economist.
So, we better save Andersen to save competition, I say. Moreover,
my sister-in-law works there.
Why is it that there are just
People might appreciate Garrick Tremain's New twin towers cartoon at
http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,0a1863,FF.html
Bill
they actually said theyd support a transitional government?
Jim D.
I don't think so. Most likely they said, a transnational
government, global government, global governance, Empire,
what have you?
Sabri
HindustanTimes.com
Wednesday, March 13, 2002
World hungry total 815 m
AFP, Tehran
Around 815 million people in the world suffer from hunger and
malnutrition,
mostly in developing countries, the head of the Rome-based UN Food
and
Agriculture Organisation (FAO) said today.
There are around 815
Bush says softwood deal within reach
By ROMA LUCIW
Globe and Mail Update
Thursday, March 14 - Online Edition, Posted at 8:14 PM EST
U.S. President George W. Bush said Thursday that an agreement in
the softwood lumber dispute could be reached before the end of the
month.
Negotiators are
Interesting, isn't it? If Andersen goes down, there will be less
competition and less incentive among the remaining four, say our
lovely commentators at the Economist.
So, we better save Andersen to save competition, I say. Moreover,
my sister-in-law works there.
save competition? why? it
[Makes one wonder whether the Right is up to testing ways to scrap
the WTO]
March 15, 2002
China Files Complaint to W.T.O. on Steel Tariffs
By BLOOMBERG NEWS
BEIJING, Friday, March 15 (Bloomberg News) - China, the world's
largest steel maker, filed a complaint today to the World Trade
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