Re: Re: Jim Crow Fascism (was Re: bullying)

2002-10-04 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 10/4/02 4:26:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Tom, I just want to repeat something I said earlier.  Maybe you missed it, it is easy to do that on this prolific list.  Fascism is a concept as well as a word with historical-polical meaning.  You can tak

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2002-10-04 Thread Ian Murray
[priceless.] washingtonpost.com The Economy, Smack Dab in an Ooch By a Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, October 5, 2002; Page A07 BOSTON, Oct. 4 -- Sometimes the economy is booming. Other times, it is contracting. At the moment, it is "ooching." This economic evaluation was offered

reforming corporate governance= socialism

2002-10-04 Thread Ian Murray
washingtonpost.com Timely, or a Waste of Time? Issue of Governance Gets Executives' Attention, but Only Mixed Approval, at Annual Retreat By a Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, October 5, 2002; Page E01 WHITE SULFUR SPRINGS, W.Va. -- Michael Dell, chairman and chief executive of Dell Comput

Re: An excerpt from Michael Yates's new book

2002-10-04 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 10/4/02 5:42:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Let us conclude this book by making some observations on three things we will have to do to achieve a society founded upon the above principles. First, any new society worthy of the name will have to embrace

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2002-10-04 Thread Ian Murray
[tragically, the Bush-Blair megalomaniacal simplex has neglected to state why they want to move beyond protecting and empowering the Kurds in Iraq while materializing-financing their oppression in southeast Turkey.] The International Herald Tribune | www.iht.com EU reported to hol

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2002-10-04 Thread Devine, James
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An excerpt from Michael Yates's new book

2002-10-04 Thread Louis Proyect
If it is not appropriate to lay out a blueprint for a new society, we can at least do two things. First, we can delineate some important principles which should guide us in our struggle for an alternative to capitalism. And second, we can address some important questions that are bound to aris

Re: Re: Goldman Sachs

2002-10-04 Thread Michael Perelman
sorry, I was thinking of replacing him in the Senate rather than at GS. On Fri, Oct 04, 2002 at 04:52:10PM -0700, Michael Perelman wrote: > Maybe Torrecelli will have to replace Corzine? > -- > Michael Perelman > Economics Department > California State University > Chico, CA 95929 > > Tel. 530-

Re: Re: Goldman Sachs

2002-10-04 Thread Ian Murray
maybe we can get Max to move back to NJ to be a write-in candidate - Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:52 PM Subject: [PEN-L:30911] Re: Goldman Sachs > Maybe Torrecelli will have to replace Cor

Re: Goldman Sachs

2002-10-04 Thread Michael Perelman
Maybe Torrecelli will have to replace Corzine? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The Anvil of War and the Ailing American Economy

2002-10-04 Thread Louis Proyect
CounterPunch October 4, 2002 The Anvil of War and the Ailing American Economy by AHMAD FARUQUI As the Bush administration gears up to fight Iraq, it overlooks deep-rooted economic and social problems on the home front that represent "a clear and present danger to America's national security".

Goldman Sachs

2002-10-04 Thread Ian Murray
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Re: Jim Crow Fascism (was Re: bullying)

2002-10-04 Thread Lisa Stolarski
Title: Re: [PEN-L:30870] Jim Crow Fascism (was Re: bullying) Hi Tom, I just want to repeat something I said earlier.  Maybe you missed it, it is easy to do that on this prolific list.  Fascism is a concept as well as a word with historical-polical meaning.  You can take the overall intent and

Re: Re: over-investment

2002-10-04 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Ian Murray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: [PEN-L:30906] Re: over-investment > over-investment > - Original Message - > From: Devine, James > > Can you find them? > > ==

Re: over-investment

2002-10-04 Thread Ian Murray
over-investment - Original Message - From: Devine, James Can you find them? == Give me a few and I'll fish 'em out. The Keynesian component arises because over-investment can cross an invisible line that's not known until the owl of Minerva has flown the coop (i.e.

RE: RE: RE: PK's the man with the plan

2002-10-04 Thread Brown, Martin - ARP (NIH/NCI)
I read it fast, but didn't see a single concrete proposal about federally directed fiscal, monetary, labor or industrial policy (except some pie-in-the-sky rhetoric about the new economy!). Did I miss something? One thing you have to say about the Republicans, when they are out of office they fo

Re: over-investment

2002-10-04 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 10/4/02 9:15:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My own view of the business "cycle" is a combination of over-investment theory and Keynes. In some eras, capitalism over-shoots relative to supply constraints (as in the late 1960s) so that there are cost const

Re: PK's the man with the plan

2002-10-04 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 10/4/02 8:28:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: New York TIMES/October 4, 2002 My Economic Plan By PAUL KRUGMAN Although other news has been drowned out by the barking of the dogs of war, something ominous is happening on the economic front. It's not dra

Re: Re: PK's the man with the plan

2002-10-04 Thread Waistline2
He's the man with the plan has a counterfeit dollar in his hand. He's mister know it all. Must be see There's no doubt, He the coolest one with the biggest mouth. He's Mister know it all. When you say that he living wrong He will say that he's living right and you would be a better man . . . .

Re: Re: PK's the man with the plan

2002-10-04 Thread Ian Murray
yin or yang..yin or yang..meanwhile billions suffer... - Original Message - From: "Tom Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 9:59 AM Subject: [PEN-L:30899] Re: PK's the man with the plan > One Krugman ready or not? > > Gos

RE: RE: PK's the man with the plan

2002-10-04 Thread Max B. Sawicky
http://www.brook.edu/dybdocroot/comm/events/20021002.pdf see for yourself. max -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brown, Martin - ARP (NIH/NCI) Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:49 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [PEN-L:30893] RE: PK'

Re: PK's the man with the plan

2002-10-04 Thread Tom Walker
One Krugman ready or not? Gosh, I seem to recall someone by the name of Paul Krugman, I believe it was, mocking William Greider a few years ago for his naive "fallacy of composition" belief in the possibilty of overproduction. Now I realize that investment and production are not synonyms, but it

Re: over-investment

2002-10-04 Thread Michael Perelman
Brad's critique of liquidationism -- The Austrian-Schumpeterian view of overinvestment -- is quite nice, but it does not preclude the possibility of overinvestment. If his view is what Jim says, that overinvestment can occur in individual industries but not in economy as a whole, then his theory

Re: PK's the man with the plan

2002-10-04 Thread Louis Proyect
>New York TIMES/October 4, 2002 >My Economic Plan >By PAUL KRUGMAN > >Although other news has been drowned out by the barking of the dogs of >war, something ominous is happening on the economic front. It's not >dramatic, but month by month the numbers keep coming in worse than >expected. Let's

over-investment

2002-10-04 Thread Devine, James
Title: over-investment [was: RE: [PEN-L:30892] Re: PK's the man with the plan] > - Original Message - > From: Devine, James > [Pen-l alumnus Brad deLong used to deny the possibility of > over-investment, > even though it's the subject of my Ph.D. dissertation! > (UC-Berkeley Econ.,

RE: Re: PK's the man with the plan

2002-10-04 Thread Davies, Daniel
>PK's the man with the plan >- Original Message - >From: Devine, James >[Pen-l alumnus Brad deLong used to deny the possibility of over-investment, >even though it's the subject of my Ph.D. dissertation! (UC-Berkeley Econ., >1981.) does he still do so?] > >I don't think s

RE: PK's the man with the plan

2002-10-04 Thread Brown, Martin - ARP (NIH/NCI)
Title: PK's the man with the plan Did Al Gore put forward any of these concrete steps in his economics talk the other day or did he just whine and moan about the evil Repubs? -Original Message-From: Devine, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:26 A

Re: PK's the man with the plan

2002-10-04 Thread Ian Murray
PK's the man with the plan - Original Message - From: Devine, James [Pen-l alumnus Brad deLong used to deny the possibility of over-investment, even though it's the subject of my Ph.D. dissertation! (UC-Berkeley Econ., 1981.) does he still do so?] I don't think so; he ma

PK's the man with the plan

2002-10-04 Thread Devine, James
Title: PK's the man with the plan New York TIMES/October 4, 2002 My Economic Plan By PAUL KRUGMAN Although other news has been drowned out by the barking of the dogs of war, something ominous is happening on the economic front. It's not dramatic, but month by month the numbers keep coming in

Re: RE: Re: Holy Roman Empire 2002

2002-10-04 Thread Carrol Cox
Mark Jones wrote: > > I can't remember who it was who said of the Holy Roman Empire that it was > neither holy, Roman, nor an empire. Macaulay? > Napoleon. (I think) Carrol

Re: RE: Re: Holy Roman Empire 2002

2002-10-04 Thread Carl Remick
>From: "Mark Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [PEN-L:30886] RE: Re: Holy Roman Empire 2002 >Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:59:10 +0100 > >I can't remember who it was who said of the Holy Roman Empire that it was >neither holy, Roman, nor an empir

Re: new top cop in L.A.

2002-10-04 Thread W.R. Needham
Title: Re: new top cop in L.A. The Globe and Mail says this morning. N.Y. ex-commissioner named to head L.A. police. Los Angeles. Former New York police commissioner William Bratton, who was formally named yesterday as Mayor Jim Hahn's choice for Los Angeles police chief, pledged to return a de

Re: Re: Holy Roman Empire 2002

2002-10-04 Thread Louis Proyect
>But even though opponents of US war in practical terms would have to >support the efforts of France Russia and China to impede this step, the >whole unconscious contradictory process is part of an inevitable leap >forward in defining the parameters of world government - the degree of >licenc

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RE: Re: Holy Roman Empire 2002

2002-10-04 Thread Mark Jones
I can't remember who it was who said of the Holy Roman Empire that it was neither holy, Roman, nor an empire. Macaulay? Mark > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Burford > Sent: 04 October 2002 07:45 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subje