In addition to this list, I receivethe Strauss list, which is
maintained at Yahoo Groups. I have also read quite a bit of Strauss.
Strauss took Marx very seriously as a philosopher. One of his books, On
Tyranny, contains an exchange of letters with Alexandre Kojeve regarding, among
In addition to this list, I receivethe Strauss list, which is
maintained at Yahoo Groups. I have also read quite a bit of Strauss.
Strauss took Marx very seriously as a philosopher. One of his books, On
Tyranny, contains an exchange of letters with Alexandre Kojeve regarding, among
other
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In addition to this list, I receivethe Strauss list, which is
mainta
Actually, I bring a Dewey perspective to questions relating to
democracy. Virtue is not something people simply have, nor is it likely
to be the product of cloistered study. Ordinary, somewhat virtuous
people can produce more or less beneficial social groups depending on
the ways they constitute
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(II)
In addition to this list, I receivethe Strauss list, which is maintained
at Yahoo
I don't agree with David that the Straussians are particularly responsible for reviving the ancients. They've never really been out. The study of Palto was part of the 19th century Oxbridge education for very Straussian reasons -- to teach the Rulers to Do Their Duty by the hoi poloi. Course the
A couple of random responses:
1. The difference between Strauss and Straussians is a major topic of
discussion on the Strauss list.
2. I am not claiming that Straussians have a monopoly of interest in
the contemporary relevance of the ancients. However, I think a fair review
of the
David
writes: I have no personal knowledge whether Straussians
are secretive or elitist...
of course!
they keep it secret.
Jim
2. I am not claiming that Straussians have a monopoly of interest in the contemporary relevance of the ancients. However, I think a fair review of the intellectual history supports the notion that Strauss, who began writing on the topic in the 1930s, was as responsible, if not more responsible,
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wrote:
3. I have no personal knowledge whether Straussians
are secretive or
elitist,
I bet you do really, but you're not telling us.
dd
I found David's last statement surprising.I suspect that the economics
profession could be considered a conservative network.
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 11:47:10AM -0700, David S. Shemano wrote:
4. As far as Straussian networking, as far as I am aware, they are the only
conservatively
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Strauss was a scholar who came up with a
lot of scholarly interpretations, many of which were controversial,
Jim Devine
c. b.. macpherson relied greatly upon strauss' book _political
philosophy of hobbes_ (appeared in english in 1936) in developing theory
of
'Straussians' in the news; the world trembles (II)
Clifford Orwin
National Post
Tuesday, June 17, 2003
In yesterday's column I began to address the allegations that a sinister
cabal of Straussians dominates American foreign policy and was
responsible for the war against Saddam. Many would have
Title: RE: [PEN-L] 'Straussians' in the news; the world trembles (II)
I felt soiled reading these articles. The culture that Peter refers to comes out pretty clear from them.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine
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'Straussians' in the news; the world trembles (II)
Clifford Orwin
National Post
Tuesday, June 17, 2003
In yesterday's column I began to address the allegations that a sinister
cabal of Straussians dominates American foreign policy and was
responsible for the war against Saddam. Many would have you believe
There's a big range. I had two Straussian teachers in Michigan polisci. One was a liberal feminist, utterly commited to democracy. She didn't blink when I wrote a paper defending what I took to be Lenin's ideal of direct democracy in SR. The other Straussian teacher of mine was very conservative,
I will admit (actually I said it in an earlier e-mail) that my knowledge
of Straussian mores comes from my own experience and not from any sort of
systematic study. It may well be that I encountered an unrepresentative
sample, although (1) grad students I talked to who had been dragooned into
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