Re: [Marxism] A tactical debate

2004-03-11 Thread Carrol Cox
Doug Henwood wrote: > > Marvin Gandall wrote: > > >If that is your position, you would be saying, against all evidence and > >logic, that there was a bipartisan consensus for the invasion of Iraq, > >and all the past year's noise and talk of a split in the US ruling class > >over the war was just s

Re: [Marxism] A tactical debate

2004-03-11 Thread Doug Henwood
Marvin Gandall wrote: If that is your position, you would be saying, against all evidence and logic, that there was a bipartisan consensus for the invasion of Iraq, and all the past year's noise and talk of a split in the US ruling class over the war was just so much malarkey. You don't understand

Re: [Marxism] A tactical debate

2004-03-11 Thread Louis Proyect
Marvin Gandall wrote: But, anyway, that's not the issue. What's important is less what he did as a opportunist politician running for President, than what he would have done as the incumbent President. You seem to be suggesting that his dissembling means he might have, like Bush, invaded Iraq. Agai

Re: [Marxism] A tactical debate

2004-03-10 Thread Marvin Gandall
Louis Proyect wrote: "This is an interesting question. Kerry insists that he voted for the war because he was misled. He based his vote on the "documentation" furnished by the CIA. If he has stated somewhere that he would have voted differently if he knew back then what he knows now (as even Colin

Re: [Marxism] A tactical debate

2004-03-10 Thread Louis Proyect
Marvin Gandall wrote: The differences – though tactical – are not inconsequential; Kerry, for opportunistic electoral reasons and despite his misgivings, voted to give Bush the authority to invade Iraq (as he earlier voted for Reagan’s invasion of Grenada), but it is almost certainly true, as he ma