what a great t-shirt slogan ian > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Brown > Sent: Friday, August 20, 1999 12:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEN-L:10265] Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Ideology/consciousness > andmaterial/social > > > I am a vulgar Marxist, goddamn it. > > Charles Brown > > >>> Carrol Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/20/99 01:22PM >>> > > > Mathew Forstater wrote: > > > I wasn't making a personal attack. Rod I think used the term vulgar > > himself, saying there was a value in vulgar materialism, by > which we both > > meant I think somewhat mechanical or deterministic materialism > or economic > > determinism. > > O.K. In any case my post was only in part a reply specifically to > you -- in general because of the everyday associations with the > word "vulgar" (as well as its original Latin sense) the term might > be used less frequently. > > Carrol >