In response to Doug's points below, I would begin by saying that the motor vehical industry is very cyclical. I suspect that the increase in employment in the sector has to do to the conversion to sport utility vehicles. I did not generalize from the auto sector. I only used it to illustrate a point. Finally, the small share motor vehicles illustrates how pervasive the de-industrialization has been. The (more than) compensating growth in the service sector, has not created the same type of jobs, as you well know. I would like to know if I was correct in my initial point about the accounting for outsourcing. Doug Henwood wrote: > Well how about this? The table shows total employment in U.S. motor > vehicles and equipment up 265,000 from Jan 90-Nov 98 - or 216,000 looking > at just production workers alone. In parts and accessories, the numbers are > +167,000 and +130,000. After declining from the 1970s into the early 1990s, > motor vehicles have increased their share of total employment since. > > Another point - though lots of people generalize about "globalization" > trends from the auto industry, it represents well under 1% of total > employment. Over 7 times as many people work in finance as in motor > vehicles; 10 times in health, 20 times in government, and 22 times in > retail. > > Doug > > ---- > > EMPLOYMENT IN U.S. MOTOR VEHICLE INDUSTRY > > motor MV > vehicles & parts & > equipment accessories > ---------------- -------------- total > total produc total produc employment > 1/70 879 683 382 306 71,018 > 1/80 852 627 388 304 90,729 > 1/90 737 540 373 290 108,946 > 2/92 804 616 414 327 108,077 > 11/98 1,002 756 539 421 126,775 > > change to > 11/98 from > ---------- > number > 1/70 +123 +73 +157 +114 +55,757 > 1/80 +150 +129 +151 +117 +36,046 > 1/90 +265 +216 +167 +130 +17,829 > 2/92 +198 +140 +125 +94 +18,698 > > percent > 1/70 +14.0% +10.7% +41.1% +37.3% +78.5% > 1/80 +17.6% +20.6% +38.9% +38.4% +39.7% > 1/90 +36.0% +40.0% +44.7% +45.0% +16.4% > 2/92 +24.6% +22.7% +30.2% +28.8% +17.3% > > % of total > 1/70 1.24% 0.96% 0.54% 0.43% 100.0% > 1/80 0.94% 0.69% 0.43% 0.33% 100.0% > 1/90 0.68% 0.50% 0.34% 0.27% 100.0% > 2/92 0.74% 0.57% 0.38% 0.30% 100.0% > 11/98 0.79% 0.60% 0.43% 0.33% 100.0% -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901