> > Emne: Re: SAVE OUR PLANET. STATUS > > Dato: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:05:54 -0800 > > Fra: National Centre for Sustainability <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Til: "UP.Secr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Dear Fjord: > > > > At 14:03 17/12/98 +0100, you wrote: " The rapid development toward the political / environmental catastrophes has reached the stage where only those aiming directly at terminating the transnational corporations are entitled to call themselves progressive." > > > > My comment: I disagree with this sweeping statement. I am absolutely in agreement with the need to dismantle the stifling stress on our future resulting from the corporate stranglehold on everything we do. However, destroying the TNCs will not achieve anything else than further destruction. Rather than equating progress with destruction, it should be aimed at construction of a liveable world for all within adequate ecological conditions. If some elements of society have to be destroyed on the way, or deeply modified, fine. However, destruction per se will only achieve what it is set for: to destroy What has to be destroyed must be replaced by something else that will work for our common good. > > > > Please rethink your message and your action plan. You are just not credible along the path you chose. > > > > Sorry for my stern comments, but after being bombarded by your messages on the theme 'destroy", I could not resist. This advice is given in warm sympathy for your concerns and your commitment. Please redirect, with equal energy and commitment, in a constructive mode. > > > > Og Glaedelig Jul, imellem. (Merry Christmas, in the meantime) > > > > Yves Bajard > > U.P.secr. skrev: > > > > Dear Yves, > > > > Thank you for this opportunity to elaborate on these serious matters. > > > > If you agree on the following assumptions, I cannot understand your position at all : > > > > The present misery on our planet has two roots: > > > > 1. Cultur > > All evil on Earth derives from those parents who do not give their children unlimited and unconditional love, respect, care and freedom to natural unfolding. Proportionately with the degree of mistreatment, the ill- treated children will spend rest of their lives with striving for power / money (extreme examples are Hitler and Sadam Husein). > > Most of the present catastrophic global situation is the direct or indirect result of the last 500 years' domination of the white Christian / child oppressing / selfish / imperialist / fascist / racist / tradition, that has destroyed numerous other cultures. > > In Denmark only recently beating of children has become illegal, 20 years after the other Scandinavian countries. > > In 1st degree imperialist powers like Britain, Germany, France, etc., the conditions are even worse. > > > > Change of the dominating culture takes generations. Therefore the only realistic chance is to curb the thus erroneously programmed money-people's activities of exploitation, by changing the reciprocal structure of society: > > > > 2. System of society > > The long overmature capitalistic system not only fails to set any limits to the exploitation, it encourages and rewards exploitation through the state of the capitalistic dictatorship. > > Nowadays 70 % of the economy is concentrated in the hands of the transnational corporations (TNCs) owned by 5 % of the world population. > > In agreement with the system, the TNCs have only one objective: maximum profit without any regard to the exploited peoples and nature. > > Through their mass media monopoly they corrupt and control the politicians and state institutions, so that there is no opposition. > > How can anybody imagine that a humane society can be built on greed and profit-hunting as the superior principles ? > > Behind all war, poverty, hunger, destruction of nature, etc., are the TNCs. > > Therefore it is the aim of all progressive people to transfer the economic and political power from the TNCs, their mass media monopoly and their politicians, to the peoples; to transfer the ownership of the TNCs from a handful of wealthy people to the whole people and to introduce democracy. > > > > Where is the "destruction" in this ? ? > > > > With my best wishes for a > > Happy New Year, > > Ole > > http://home4.inet.tele.dk/peoples/ > > Re: [Fwd: SAVE OUR PLANET. STATUS] > Dato: > Mon, 21 Dec 1998 00:09:33 +0800 > Fra: > "Brian Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Til: > "TOES97 Newsgroup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "U.P.secr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Ole wrote in answer to Yves on Sunday, 20 December 1998 4:18 > |Behind all war, poverty, hunger, destruction of nature, etc., are the TNCs. Therefore it is the aim of all progressive people > |to transfer the economic and political power from the > |TNCs, their mass media monopoly and their politicians, to the > |peoples; to transfer the ownership of the > |TNCs from a handful of wealthy people to the whole people > |and to introduce democracy. > | > |Where is the "destruction" in this ? ? > > Some progressive thinkers may prefer to civilise the TNCs rather than nationalise them. The ill-fated USSR experiments in democracy and ownership transfer have sufficiently discredited that style of utopianism. > A well-nurtured child should be capable of tolerating alternatives! > > Brian Jenkins > > 1998.12.21 > Dear Brian, > > WHAT exactly do you mean with "civilising" the TNCs, WHO is supposed to do it and HOW ? > Is there any alternative to the democratic solution described in > http://home4.inet.tele.dk/peoples ? > > Ole
