To gmt: Your comments are probably not worth responding to, but... 1) Some of us have tenure, but if you have been following this list recently you will realize that tenure is under a general assault right now, and is no guarantee of a job anyway, not on my campus at least. 2) Why do you presume that everyone on this list is a gutless wonder? I happen to know several people on this list who have gone to jail for their beliefs. There are very few Nelson Mandelas in this world, and there may well be some self-satisfied hypocrites on this list. But there is probably a higher percentage of people who have actually stood up for something and paid a serious price for it than on most lists. But I see no reason to either prattle on about my own experiences or those of specific other people on here that I know about. Let others speak if they so choose. But your remarks are very wide of the mark, to say the least. Barkley Rosser