Ajit asks:
>>As a member of that "crowd", do you believe that Marx's 'labor-values'
are the satistical average of "real market prices"?<<

where "crowd" here refers to the disparaging term that Ajit uses
to describe those who have learned from Farjoun and Machover's
LAWS OF CHAOS.

My answer: No I don't see either values or prices of production
as mere "statistical averages."  Rather, I see them as
theoretical constructs appropriate to higher levels of
abstraction than the world of appearances we live in.

NB: I do not think that these "theoretical constructs"
are simply ideal categories in a theorist's (or Marx's)
mind.  Rather, they are theoretical constructs that
capture real aspects of the real world that are not
revealed simply by looking at statistical averages
and the like.  Values are appropriate to the abstract
world of what I term "the social factory" of capitalism
-- but this social factory is a part of the empirical
world, i.e., the unified and socialized nature of the
capitalist system (and its historical tendency to reveal
that unified and socialized nature).  Prices of
production are appropriate to a less abstract world,
where the heterogeneity of different capitals appears
and profit-rates are equalizaed.  This is an abstraction
but reflects the real-world, empirical, tendency toward
profit-rate equalization.  The fact that there are also
real-world, empirical, tendencies toward disequalization
does not make prices of production irrelevant.  In fact,
they are very useful for understanding synchronic relations
within capitalism, which contribute to our understanding
of the diachronic tendencies.

Footnote: Farjoun and Machover do not use the word
"Chaos" in the way economists currently do. It is
also interesting to note that (last time I heard)
both were political activists in the same movement
in Israel (MATZPEN, a socialist group) even though
one is an Arab and the other a Jew.

in pen-l solidarity,

Jim Devine
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Econ. Dept., Loyola Marymount Univ., Los Angeles, CA 90045-2699 USA
310/338-2948 (daytime, during workweek); FAX: 310/338-1950
"Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own way
and let people talk.) -- K. Marx, paraphrasing Dante A.

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