I work in a unionized setting, so, it is not necessary for me to adopt the goals of the company I work for. However, it seems that non-union workers, especially those on the fast track up, do need to adopt company goals. I still think, though, that non-profits require a dedication which is not required of non-management employees in profit making enterprises. maggie coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------- Forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Izurieta) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 96-10-29 03:25:59 EST > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEN-L:6987] Fwd: Re: exploitation in progressive organizations? (was re:aiusa) > 2. (...) to have the same goals as the organization, > something profit making businesses do not expect. As a plain old worker in a > company, you are expected to give a certain amount of labor per dollar, but > not necessarily have the same goals as the CEO. Sure????? I certainly agree with Maggie's recent postings on this issue, which only helps to emphasize the need that folks in the 'left' keep *always* in mind, that i) we need power to get through to a better world and that ii) power is not 'mine', but belongs to (not only relies on) the unprotected and exploited. Me, as Maggie, have seen it very often (though not always, of course, I am not a pessimistic...) that 'politically correct' folks, as soon as they get a bit of power, they forget (or close an eye to) both i) what is this power for and ii) to whom this power belongs.. BUT, I wouldn't dare to say that private corporations and the capitalis society as a whole does not ask their workers to adhere to the goals and values of the corporation/society... Of course they do!! Maybe, there are other kind of experiences..., but is that the 'common pattern'??? I mean, also for plain workers, as subtle the interioration of values as it may be, it does exist. And, moreover, plain and not plain workers who do not share the values and goals, who do not repeat 'we' when they are referring to the organisation they work for, who do not conceed a great deal of idolatrisation to their bosses, who do not manifest that they are 'glad' to get their income thanks to the jobs offered by the organisation, who do not dress as expected, who do not 'socialize' following the norms of behaviour, etc., etc., they are little by little marginalised, and eventually either they are fired or at the end they resign out of exhaustation... (the latter, if I may say, is the recurrent experience of my wife over the last five years or so...) What makes a difference, and I understand that is Maggie what was implicitly referring to in #2 of her last posting, is that in a private (or at least non-non-profit) organisation it is more straightforward -and immediate?- to unionise. And *if* the union succeeds in represeenting the workers, and *if* the union does not end up patronising and adopting the same values of the organisation, *then* the plain worker can be more independently minded. But that independence of mind is -for the very little I know- becoming more and more scarse... One more thing that adds to the challenge we have ahead. Salud, Alex. > Alex Izurieta E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Institute of Social Studies P.O. Box 29776 2502 LT The Hague Tel. 31-70-4260480 Fax. 31-70-4260.755 4260.799