Jim Craven wrote: (I am a work in progress) ___________ So are others. Why deny them this simple humanity? I think Bodhi did raise some issues which requires us to think about the relationship of 'pre-modern' world coexisting (barely though) with 'modern/postmodern' world. Usually I find that most of the new participants come out blazing but slowly adjust to the culture once the established culture shows some tolerance and gives due credit to the participants. Cheers, ajit sinha