In reply to Robin Hahnel: I've read Devine's work [Democracy and Economic Planning] and I would not characterize it as anti-market socialist as far as substance goes (as against labels). In common with most advocates of market socialism, Devine calls for planning of investment, but he allows significant scope for markets in consumption goods. Where he differs from market socialists is that his investment planning mechanism is rather more comprehensive and detailed than theirs usually are. But I think the differences between Devine and, say, Schweickart, are more over degree of planning than principle, and over the willingness to accept market-friendly language. Devine would emphasize the failings of markets, would probably not accept the 'market socialist' label, etc, whereas Schweickart would probably put himself in the market socialist camp and would emphasize some of the positive aspects of markets and the failings of excessive amounts of central planning. I don't think their two models are so much opposed as on a continuum. Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
