Barkley: > Actually, Louis P., the market socialism of the >Slovenian type is probably the kind of socialism that would >have the best chance and greatest appeal in the US, for all >its flaws. The fact that we do have a movement, however >half-baked, toward workers' ownership and at least some >vague kinds of workers' control (see UAL, the plywood >coops, etc.) points in this direction. > Louis: Just as I expected, the discussion has reverted to exactly where it has been for the last 3 years: comparing the merits of utopian schemas. Barkely's heart belongs to Slovenia, while Robin Hahnel will try to figure out a way to defend his own nostrums. I have no interest in this sort of discussion, so I am about to descend back into the lower depths of the Spoons list where we get ourselves muddy fighting over such mudane matters as the relationship of class and nationality (or class and gender) when dealing with black nationalism or feminism. I will go to bed each night with a little prayer on my lips that the plywood coops will sweep eastward and transform property relations down at Goldman-Sachs, my old employer. There's a bunch of people there I'd like to see get their comeuppance.
