For a "virtual" debate between Mr. McKibben and yours truly that begin on 12/23/97, see "The Future of Consumption" at: http://bsd.mojones.com/hellraiser_central/forum/index.html mbs ----------------------- Lou, I was surprised to see you uncritically post a piece by Bill McKibben. His bourgeois antiurban romanticism seems deeply at odds with Marxism, even your own somewhat peculiar romanticized preindustrial Marxist fantasia. Were I feeling less kind, I'd say your style of Marxism has a face that only a NYC cubicle dwelling computer geek could love. Frances
