Re: East Timor ( was Abundance (was Naderism)

2001-06-27 Thread Nathan Newman
- Original Message - From: Rob Schaap [EMAIL PROTECTED] G'day Lou, This is an excellent publication, although I sharply disagree with their support of UN troops in East Timor and the Mideast. -*What I can't come at* is damning the west for going in to prevent actual -slaughter from

Re: Re: East Timor ( was Abundance (was Naderism)

2001-06-27 Thread Louis Proyect
Nathan Newman: Actually, what is amazing about the condemnation of support by the West for the East Timorese is that for decades Chomsky and others have made the fact that the West did nothing back in the 1970s to stop the initial invasion and mass murder as proof that it had a double standard of

Re: Re: East Timor ( was Abundance (was Naderism)

2001-06-27 Thread LeoCasey
Let us suppose, for purposes of argument, that this little syllogism is correct in its premises, and that one can reduce genocide to capitalism, and capitalism to the USA. [I can't help but point out, however, if only in passing, that the formulation has the effect of allowing one to elide all

Re: Re: Re: East Timor ( was Abundance (was Naderism)

2001-06-27 Thread Louis Proyect
Leo Casey wrote: Let us suppose, for purposes of argument, that this little syllogism is correct in its premises, and that one can reduce genocide to capitalism, and capitalism to the USA. [I can't help but point out, however, if only in passing, that the formulation has the effect of allowing

Re: Re: Re: Re: East Timor ( was Abundance (was Naderism)

2001-06-27 Thread Michael Perelman
Leo is relatively new here, so he probably does not know that we have been over this a number of times. I don't think that there is much need to repeat it again. On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 11:25:09AM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote: Leo Casey wrote: Let us suppose, for purposes of argument, that this

Re: Re: Re: East Timor ( was Abundance (was Naderism)

2001-06-27 Thread LeoCasey
I am sure that my history is unreliable, by the lights of the history of former Yugoslavia according to Milosevic and his apologists. No doubt my history of Rwanda is also unreliable, by the lights of the history of Hutu Power and their apologists. And so on. I have yet to learn of the