Re: Angel of History (was Re: Geras vs Laclau)

2001-06-21 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
>You don't have to call yourself a Marxist, wave red flags, talk the >language of early 20th century Russian political organizing, to be a >socialist. In fact, it's probably best not to do so. It just turns >off the people you want to organize, as you know. Mainly it's a >religious thing for p

Re: Re: Angel of History (was Re: Geras vs Laclau)

2001-06-21 Thread Michael Pugliese
PEN-L:13740] Re: Angel of History (was Re: Geras vs Laclau) > > Lou complains of > >reformism of the SACP, the Mexican CP, FARC, & a host of other > >outfits in the periphery, but in this they are merely following the > >trend that happened much, much earlier in the

Re: Re: Angel of History (was Re: Geras vs Laclau)

2001-06-21 Thread Justin Schwartz
You don't have to call yourself a Marxist, wave red flags, talk the language of early 20th century Russian political organizing, to be a socialist. In fact, it's probably best not to do so. It just turns off the people you want to organize, as you know. Mainly it's a religious thing for people

Re: Angel of History (was Re: Geras vs Laclau)

2001-06-21 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
>I agree that Marxism has collapsed as an organizing principle, and >is not likely to come back. But the questions raised here are not >about the principles around which _we_ should organize, but about >those arouns which _society_ is organized, that is, around the truth >of historical materia

Re: Angel of History (was Re: Geras vs Laclau)

2001-06-21 Thread Louis Proyect
> Lou complains of >reformism of the SACP, the Mexican CP, FARC, & a host of other >outfits in the periphery, but in this they are merely following the >trend that happened much, much earlier in the core. I must demur. The trend in question was the Comintern of the Popular Front era which pr

Re: Angel of History (was Re: Geras vs Laclau)

2001-06-21 Thread Justin Schwartz
CTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [PEN-L:13734] Angel of History (was Re: Geras vs Laclau) >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:01:52 -0400 > >>Geras, I might add, has changed his views since that debate. On >>two occasions, at a conference and as

Angel of History (was Re: Geras vs Laclau)

2001-06-21 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
>Geras, I might add, has changed his views since that debate. On >two occasions, at a conference and as an invited speaker at York, >I noted that in his presentation he seemed to be trying to get away >from the idea of a 'single principle underlying the differences'. I >asked, in a roundabout way