This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD2A85.511C5470 Hi Doug -- As far as I can see the Fed is controlling the market very closely these days with 3-month treasuries. At least when the market is down interest rates seem to be down as well and conversely. Thus it seems that the Fed is preventing a real melt down in stocks while at the same time denying any impulses the market may have to go up. Thus you may very well be in luck and the bear market be well established fairly soon. The recent experience we have had with central bank control of the stock market is in Japan from 1987 to the present when the market gradually fell from the 38000's (?) to the current 14000's (?), a truly prolonged bear market. At the same time the short interest rate was reduced below 1%. It is interesting to attempt to apply this history to the current U.S. situation. For me the most upsetting element of Wall St. was the chart on p. 81 showing the net U.S. credit position since 1952 as a percent of GDP. From a break even position in 1982 we now are in hock for 16% of GDP, an amount that is increasing rapidly. The Fed must be aware of this, and must also be aware of the powerful effect interest rate cuts can have in reducing the value of the dollar and thereby tending to restore some sort of trade balance. On the other hand it may be that the situation has gone too far already, and if the dollar were to begin a long descent speculation would force an immediate crash and an abrupt end to the current world economic system, i.e., with the dollar as the international currency and the U.S. as the consumer of last resort. Indeed there is real peril here since roughly half of international trade consists of INTRA-corporate transfers and, except for the EC and Japan most currencies are pegged to the dollar anyway. Thus it is not clear that devaluation can restore the U.S. trade balance, at least at dollar values that are acceptable to speculators and in terms of its role as the international currency. Yet what else can they try? At some level of international indebtedness the willingness of speculators to hold dollars will disappear, and it would appear from your chart that that day is fast approaching. At least the low interest rate approach has some hope of saving the U.S. stock market from a true melt down and could provide benefits both domestically and internationally in propping up demand and staving off the global recession (depression?). Dave ---------- Sent: Friday, January 23, 1998 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Japan's MoF Jay Hecht wrote: >The "bears" in the latest Barron's roundtable all repeat the same thing. >Another "Rational Expectations" hypothesis - all assertion, no facts. I can't read that crap anymore. Either makes me want to scream or go to sleep. All I care about is that a bear market be well established by the time the paperback of Wall Street comes out. 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