RE: Re: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-11 Thread Nicole Seibert
that have worked on this type of topic before? -Nico -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Dorman Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 3:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Re: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes

RE: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-11 Thread Nicole Seibert
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug) I agree with Yoshie here, and I d o not think that you believe what you say. Do you find it hard to pass judgment on Henry Kissinger or George W. Bush?

RE: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-08 Thread Nicole Seibert
So, how did feminism start? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Yoshie Furuhashi Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[PEN-L:1394] Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug

Re: Re: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-07 Thread Peter Dorman
Am I right in locating the core error in pomoism (as currently defended) in its assumption that claims are either "true" or "unjudgeable opinions"? Such a view excludes the possibility of criteria that would pass judgment on claims even in the absence of any knowledge that they are truly "true".

Re: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-07 Thread JKSCHW
I agree with Yoshie here, and I d o not think that you believe what you say. Do you find it hard to pass judgment on Henry Kissinger or George W. Bush? --jks >Understanding that this is relative however makes passing judgment almost >impossible. And I am not talking about the judgment of wheth

Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-07 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
>(How degrading - naïve relativism, sounds harsh. Anyway, you answered that >question yourself with Hume. Realizing that it is all relative does not >preclude the fact that we must walk out of our front doors or wear clothes. >Understanding that this is relative however makes passing judgment al

RE: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-07 Thread Nicole Seibert
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 3:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug) I was a professional philosopher of

Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-06 Thread JKSCHW
I was a professional philosopher of science, taught at Michigan, Cambridge, Kalamazoo College, and Ohio State. Now I am a lawyer. You present the argument, suggested once by the Harvard phil of science prof Hilary Putnam, that we should conclude that all of our beliefs are wrong because all of

RE: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-06 Thread Nicole Seibert
This is what I meant, Doug, when I said that pomoisma encourages bad epistemology and metaphysics that districts everyone from debating important substantive issues while failing to advance epistemological or metaphysical discussion. And where you are wrong J is that you think academia and the re

Re: Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-06 Thread JKSCHW
I wasn't picking on Nicole, who is after all a student, but on supposedly professional scholars in the pomo mode whose analysis is no better. I except some of the big shots: Derrida, Foucault, DeLeuze, Rorty, etc., are quite sophisticated. Lytoard, however, is not. --jks In a message dated Wed

Re: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-06 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Justin, >But what is the point of engaging in this exercise? I enjoy an >epistemological >dustup as well as any and better than most ... But at the >level at which the >present discussion is carried on, the game is not >worth the candle. It's a >distraction. I don't agree with this, mate.

Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-05 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/5/00 8:06:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Academics are in a position of authority. Authority that historically does not pan out. I have never been in a class in which what a past academic said was taken for truth. And the reality of the situa

RE: RE: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-05 Thread Nicole Seibert
al Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Carrol Cox Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 5:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug) Nicole Seibert wrote: > The problem with acting like

RE: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug) II

2000-09-05 Thread Nicole Seibert
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Rob Schaap Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 1:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug) >I find this particularly true if we take the argum

Re: RE: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-05 Thread Carrol Cox
Nicole Seibert wrote: > The problem with acting like we > know it all is that people then think we know it all. Nicole, statements like this just make conversation impossible. No in the history of the world (except possibly Duhring and Wagner) has even pretended to "Know it All" -- and if yo

RE: Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-05 Thread Nicole Seibert
bout Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug) G'day Nico, >But isn't that the way the world really is: lots of people saying, "that's >just an interpretation and it is not mine." Aren't current academic debates >nothing but arguments trying to sway one side or another,

Being serious about Pomotismo (with quotes for Doug)

2000-09-04 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Nico, >But isn't that the way the world really is: lots of people saying, "that's >just an interpretation and it is not mine." Aren't current academic debates >nothing but arguments trying to sway one side or another, debating "the >truth." Yep. You make that sound as if that's bad thing