Just to reply quickly to Louis's points:

1. To begin with, there was absolutely nothing about Venezuela or
Haiti - two of the more important hot spots in the world today.

Reply: Best to concentrate on what is there, not on what is not there. Louis
underestimates very much the attack of Richard Pipes-type neo-conservative
Stalinism on the academic freedom of thought, the academic freedom of
expression and the academic free inquiry. Most, if not all, of those
socialist scholars at the conference would oppose foreign subversion in
Haiti and Venezuela, but this does necessarily mean that they are in a
position where they can speak about that publicly. Louis sees socialist
academics are part of the problem, rather than part of the solution, and
therefore, he cannot solve the organisational question in this specific area
either.

2. Discussions of imperialism and the world economy are becoming more and
more a centerpiece of such gatherings. (...)  Is the patient
healthy? Is GDP rising?

Reply: I've predicted that for years, and had planned to publish on that by
now, except, I was politically a bit naive about the capacity of racist
imperialism to really wreck my own life, assisted by eggheads claiming to be
"scientific" or "artistic". And I was not even talking about Venezuela or
Haiti or anything. Louis is correct, many of these scholarly people do not
know what the questions really are, or what the point of the theory is.
There I agree with him. Nevertheless, much of their work is extremely
valuable. Louis's problem here really is, that he is always looking for the
most radical position from within the socialist camp. This causes a
perceptual distortion, since statistically, people at such a conference are
already more radical or more advanced in their thinking at least, than the
majority of the US population. If Louis wants to tell other people what to
do their research on, or how to do their research, that's okay, but then he
has to explain why.

3. Entirely missing from these discussions is the all important question of
what is to be done.

Reply: I don't see what Louis's problem is here. It's quite clear what is to
be done, and most of those scholars are doing it. What else do you expect a
socialist scholar to do, except scholarly research in his field of interest
? The question is how you could help them, in doing what they are already
doing, better. As regards "What is to be done", this is an activist
question. There is absolutely no way, that a scholar can solve the political
problem of organisation, except for himself or herself personally, at most
he could contribute to that problem. theoretically, or in terms of empirical
research. A scholar cannot be also an political activist, or at least, not
all of the time, otherwise no scholarship and teaching would get done. In
addition scientific integrity limits the possibilities for political
activity. The real challenge is to see how you can utilise the contributions
of researchers and their research (what they are already doing), and if you
can link them (1) to other researchers in their area of interest, and (2) to
people who are appropriately placed to benefit from that research, and who
are also prepared to defend those researchers in their academic position
(since anti-imperialist and anti-elitist scholars get purged by
neo-conservative-type Stalinism). What Louis needs to understand is that
people like Horowitz, Pipes etc. really represent the indigenous American
Stalinism, and that they are very prepared to justify the murder of far more
people than Stalin even if officially they deny this. That is, Louis
underestimates just how anti-human, reactionary and racist the
neoconservatives are. In a certain sense, Louis is too "good" to understand
how bad the neoconservatives are.

4. When it comes to activism, the SSC gives heavy representation to open
enemies of classical Marxism.

Reply: "Classical Marxism" doesn't really exist anyway and never existed.
That was just a typology which  the honourable "menshevik" Isaac Deutscher
had, which does not truly apply to historical realities if you really know
about them. It's more a sort of studenty myth Trotskyists and Cliffites have
made about the "glory days" of socialism, without understanding the real
dialectic of ideas and material reality. Just because Chris Harman publishes
a book about "the real Marxist tradition" doesn't mean it is true, you are
much better off listening to a Tori Amos CD. If Marx, Lenin, Trotsky,
Luxemburg and other golden oldies are being attacked, the question is not
whether this is sacrilege, but rather whether or not the attack is valid, is
not valid, or is irrelevant. Suppose that in reality the dillemma was not
socialism or barbarism, but the victory of socialism, or the victory of
Marx. Which then would you choose ? Of course ! You would choose the victory
of socialism. Who cares about whether Marx was correct or not, if we can
have a real egalitarian, non-violent and free society ?

5. During the discussion period, I asked Klein if she
is not a socialist, then what is she? Is the idea to fight for
autonomous factory occupations, squats and soup kitchens in perpetuity?

Reply: Personally, I used to be critical of Naomi Klein years ago, but I've
actually got much more sympathetic recently because of her truly excellent
publications. Louis again mistakes the real problem which autonomism tries
to answer, namely how you can live a life of integrity according to your
true beliefs, when large numbers of people try to mess around with the most
intimate details of your life, destroy your health, and steal/exploit what
they can from your life and life energy. Also, Louis fails to understand and
tackle the question of how specifically Naomi Klein could contribute
constructively to answers about the problems of socialist transition, in
other words, a feasible socialism, a feasible alternative to the downsidesof
modern capitalism.

6. The primary sponsor of the event is the Democratic Socialists of
America, who basically function as the leftwing of the Democratic Party.

Reply: If that is so, then Louis is actually a guest of a socialist group
with whom he has major differences and disagreements. But then so what ? If
Louis has a problem with the fact, that the DSA is a left-wing of the
Democrats, then why hang around them ? Why visit a conference only to
disparage it ? What is the point of this, and how can it lead to a
principled politics ? The real question is, whether the DSA can shift
Democrat politics in a more progressive direction; if the answer is yes,
then you try to work out how that could best be done; if it is no, then you
could make an argument as to why you think they are better off concentrating
their energies in some other area. But if it's a scholarly conference, you
have to argue that out, through facts and logic. Even so, if you are not
even in the DSA, then you are not well placed to tell them, how to conduct
their politics.

7. Unfortunately revolutionary socialism has no such equivalent venue.

Reply: That is correct, and revolutionary socialists do not necessarily need
such a venue either. In fact many of them wouldn't dream of using a
telephone for communications. Again Louis underestimates the scale and
impact of neo-conservative Stalinism on the world, and on progressive,
freedom-loving people, the fact that many people must cope with surveillance
and so on. Of course, Greenspan, Bush, Pipes, Kristol and all those people
declare themselves in favour of freedom, but the reality is the absolute
opposite, they are all totalitarians and Stalinists. That is what I think is
progressive about Zizek, because he shows how linguistically verything gets
inverted and turned upside down, the doublespeak of imperialism.  The
neoconservative-Stalinist emphasis on an "external enemy of freedom" is just
a cover for an "internal attack on freedom".

In summary, I think that in respect to this conference,

(1) Louis takes a one-sided interpretation which emphasises what is not
there, rather than what is there, raising the question why is he there and
this is also a recipe for disappointment. The real dialectic of the actual
and the potential is not to focus on the discrepancy of the idea and the
reality, but to discover the potential in the actual and how you could
develop it.
(2) Louis does not assess people, events, themes and situations in a process
of motion and development, in other words historical thinking is lacking.
(3) Louis does not consider and distinguish between different modes of
learning and obtaining knowledge, and what that implies.
(4) Louis lowers the real effect that he could himself potentially have as a
socialist.

This criticism of Louis does not mean that I do not value Louis, but that I
think that Louis makes a mistake, just as Louis thinks I make a mistake.

Jurriaan

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