Max, you butterfly, you. I would agree that the outcome in the example you
give seems "less unappealing". That is perhaps because we can imagine what
it is like to have an income of $10,000 and what it would feel like to get
a $1000 boost. We can also imagine how unimportant a $2000 windfall might
Over on LBO they're arguing about who is
more psychotic. I think both sides are
winning. So this debate compares
well. I would be sorry to see either TW
or RO go. Neither of them has called me
an insect yet.
On the substance of the matter . . . TW said:
Max has an income of $100. Ro
Roger Odisio wrote,
> mean between $10,000 and $15,000--the last bit of bullshit you used to
> avoid addressing which tax system I posited was more progressive.)
Getting testy now, are we?
Max has an income of $100. Roger has an income of $10. I give Max $2
Tom Walker:
> Roger Odisio wrote,
>
> > An electricity price reduction is the same thing as a lump sum rebate in
> > this context; each has the same effect on disposable income.
>
> No. The lump-sum rebate in your example was without regard to levels of
> consumption. The poor consumer received t
Roger Odisio wrote,
> An electricity price reduction is the same thing as a lump sum rebate in
> this context; each has the same effect on disposable income.
No. The lump-sum rebate in your example was without regard to levels of
consumption. The poor consumer received the same $200 as the rich
Tom Walker wrote:
> Roger Odisio wrote,
>
> > The clearest way to see the effect . . .
>
> The key word here is "effect". The illustration you gave, Roger, is not of
> a flat-rate reduction but of a lump-sum rebate. Under the circumstances, a
> lump-sum rebate _would_ be progressive in the strict
Roger Odisio wrote,
> The clearest way to see the effect . . .
The key word here is "effect". The illustration you gave, Roger, is not of
a flat-rate reduction but of a lump-sum rebate. Under the circumstances, a
lump-sum rebate _would_ be progressive in the
Max Sawicky wrote,
> But suppose it is the ratio of net of tax income?
> In Walker's example, the ratio changes from
> (9/8)*(rich inc/poor inc) to (91/82) * (rich/poor).
> The latter is smaller, which could be taken to
> mean "more" progressivity. Or less inequality.
The dictionary definition
Tom Walker wrote:
> I don't quarrel with the definition, only with applying the term to
> a situation where it doesn't apply. Be humble. Do the math.
>
> > "Increasing in rate as the taxable amount increases: a progressive
> > income tax."
>
> Th
Roger Odisio wrote,
> By my reading, only a couple posts by Tom Walker seem to quarrel with
> it. (the definition of progressivity)
I don't quarrel with the definition, only with applying the term to
a situation where it doesn't apply. Be humble. Do the math.
>>>>&
Roger Odisio wrote,
> By my reading, only a couple posts by Tom Walker seem to quarrel with
> it. (the definition of progressivity)
I don't quarrel with the definition, only with applying the term to
a situation where it doesn't apply. Be humble. Do the math.
> "I
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