RE: Do the math. II

2000-02-08 Thread Timework Web
Roger Odisio wrote, The clearest way to see the effect . . . The key word here is "effect". The illustration you gave, Roger, is not of a flat-rate reduction but of a lump-sum rebate. Under the circumstances, a lump-sum rebate _would_ be progressive in the

Re: RE: Do the math. II

2000-02-08 Thread Roger Odisio
Tom Walker wrote: Roger Odisio wrote, The clearest way to see the effect . . . The key word here is "effect". The illustration you gave, Roger, is not of a flat-rate reduction but of a lump-sum rebate. Under the circumstances, a lump-sum rebate _would_ be progressive in the strict sense

Re: Do the math. II

2000-02-08 Thread Timework Web
Roger Odisio wrote, An electricity price reduction is the same thing as a lump sum rebate in this context; each has the same effect on disposable income. No. The lump-sum rebate in your example was without regard to levels of consumption. The poor consumer received the same $200 as the rich

Re: Re: Do the math. II

2000-02-08 Thread Roger Odisio
Tom Walker: Roger Odisio wrote, An electricity price reduction is the same thing as a lump sum rebate in this context; each has the same effect on disposable income. No. The lump-sum rebate in your example was without regard to levels of consumption. The poor consumer received the same

Re: Do the math. II

2000-02-08 Thread Timework Web
Roger Odisio wrote, mean between $10,000 and $15,000--the last bit of bullshit you used to avoid addressing which tax system I posited was more progressive.) Getting testy now, are we? Max has an income of $100. Roger has an income of $10. I give Max $2

RE: Re: Do the math. II

2000-02-08 Thread Max Sawicky
Over on LBO they're arguing about who is more psychotic. I think both sides are winning. So this debate compares well. I would be sorry to see either TW or RO go. Neither of them has called me an insect yet. On the substance of the matter . . . TW said: Max has an income of $100. Roger has

RE: Do the math II

2000-02-08 Thread Timework Web
Max, you butterfly, you. I would agree that the outcome in the example you give seems "less unappealing". That is perhaps because we can imagine what it is like to have an income of $10,000 and what it would feel like to get a $1000 boost. We can also imagine how unimportant a $2000 windfall