Ricardo: This is over The subject is exhausted.
That depends on how much depth a person wants. I think I have
said something different in every post except when clarity required
it. I was just about to examine Wood's argument in light of some
recent research - sources which no one has
Ricardo, over means over. The difference between the threads is that this one is
personal. If anyone wants to read your article, they know where to look
On Wed, Nov 01, 2000 at 09:21:00AM -0400, Ricardo Duchesne wrote:
Ricardo: This is over The subject is exhausted.
That depends
So the English feudal ruling class was unique in that its extra-
economic powers were "increasingly concentrated in the central
state" beginning with the Norman conquest in the eleventh century.
Long before their continental counterparts, English lords were
"demilitarized" and deprived of
Ricardo: This is over The subject is exhausted.
Ricardo Duchesne wrote:
So the English feudal ruling class was unique in that its extra-
economic powers were "increasingly concentrated in the central
state" beginning with the Norman conquest in the eleventh century.
Long before their
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Ian wrote:
It really, really helps to read Wood alongside Christopher Hill's "The World
Turned Upside Down". Problems for the landlords [and the Parish System in
general] began with the reign of Henry the VIIIth. Nor should we avoid the
fact the rise of
Charles writes:
CB: What is lesser known is the the truth cannot be found in a million
different books either - unless one selects the right ones.
I've found that I can learn from almost any book, even the campaign
autobiography of George W. Bush. It may give me more insights in
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Charles writes:
CB: What is lesser known is the the truth cannot be found in a million
different books either - unless one selects the right ones.
I've found that I can learn from almost any book, even the campaign
autobiography of George W. Bush. It may
Anyone familiar with Wood's writings will know how much she has
hammered this distinction between extra-economic and economic
forms of surplus extraction, a distinction which is however common
knowledge to every Marxist. What is not so common (what is in
fact missed in most interpretations of
CB: There is also a lot of falsehood in books, probably as much falsehood
as truth. Many books mislead many people.
I find that one can learn from falsehoods. When Al Gore pretended to be
Ronald Reagan in the first debate with George W. [sighing rather than
saying "there you go again"], that
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CB: There is also a lot of falsehood in books, probably as much falsehood
as truth. Many books mislead many people.
I find that one can learn from falsehoods. When Al Gore pretended to be
Ronald Reagan in the first debate with George W. [sighing rather
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Charles Brown wrote:
CB: There is also a lot of falsehood in books, probably as much
falsehood as truth. Many books mislead many people.
Yes. That's why it's best to keep certain titles locked up,
accessible only to those who have passed rigorous tests
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I have already cited Brenner's argument that we must study the
process of class struggles class formations _in Africa_ to fully
account for the emergence of African slaves as commodities, as well
as class struggles class formations _in the so-called New
Wood Brenner (as well as Marx, for that matter) emphasize the
novelty of capitalism as a mode of production (in historical
materialism, analytical emphasis falls upon discontinuities, rather
than continuities; see _Grundrisse_ _Capital_ especially).
However, _none_ of them argues
Yoshie:
However, _none_ of them argues that capitalism emerged at once,
"fully fledged," like the birth of Athena from the forehead of Zeus!
The emergence of capitalist social relations was a drawn-out
_process_ (not a linear Progress), born of contingent outcomes of
class struggles in
Next in line is Perry Anderson, whom Wood thinks added little to
the debate except clarify the disctinction between "politico-legal
coercion" and "economic" exploitation, with his argument that the
Absolutist state "represented the displacement upward and the
centralization of the feudal
1976 was the year the transition-problem found a solution with the
publication in *Past Present* of Brenner's "Agrarian Class
Structure and Economic Development" - so Wood insists.
Everyone praised this article, few understood its meaning. Critics
and sympathizers were impressed by the
We are now into the heart of the Brenner-Wood thesis, page 46 of
*The Origin of Capitalism*, first sentence: "In England, an
exceptionally large proportion of land was owned by landlords and
worked by tenants whose conditions of tenure increasingly took the
form of economic leases, with rents
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Subject: [PEN-L:3552] E. Wood's defence of Brenner
We are now into the heart of the Brenner-Wood thesis, page 46 of
*The Origin of Capitalism*, first sentence: "In England, an
exceptionally large proportion of land was owned by landlords and
wo
I have been staying out of this. and pretty much will, but I will remark
that you are into the heart of the history of the land law, one of the very
hardest topics in the history of law; if you are seriou about this, you must
wrap your head around something like Brian Simpson, The Land Law,
Ian wrote:
It really, really helps to read Wood alongside Christopher Hill's "The World
Turned Upside Down". Problems for the landlords [and the Parish System in
general] began with the reign of Henry the VIIIth. Nor should we avoid the
fact the rise of atheism in England had a lot to do with the
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I have already cited Brenner's argument that we must study the
process of class struggles class formations _in Africa_ to fully
account for the emergence of African slaves as commodities, as well
as class struggles
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/26/00 03:12AM
I have already cited Brenner's argument that we must study the
process of class struggles class formations _in Africa_ to fully
account for the emergence of African slaves as commodities, as well
as class struggles class formations _in the so-called New
Ricardo wrote:
When Wood (and Brenner) tell us that capitalism is not commerce
they mean it. Capitalism did not grow naturally out of anything that
preceded it; it is so unknown in history, so novel, exceptional and
incomparable, that when it came, it did so "fully fledged". (Those
who claim
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