Hi Rakesh,

What I forgot in my discussion about equilibrium as regards value theory is,
that there is a simple way to defend the importance of an economic theory of
value in equilibrium theory, as distinct from price, which occurred to me as
a Phd student in 1988 reading a book by the Japanese scholar Kozo Uno.

This defence consists in saying:

(premise 1) suppose that I take the prices of N number of heterogenous
product units A and B, and add them up to arrive at price P.

(premise 2) Now it is clear, that price P does not "exist in the real world"
in a sense, it is the sum of a number of different prices which I have added
up, not the physical price tags. It is a sort of ""theoretical price". Yet,
this abstraction has a certain reality, because it refers to real prices; it
is not arbitrary.

(premise 3): But even although price P does not exist in the real world, you
could not do any accounting without calculating P-type price aggregates, and
the accounting aggregate which P represents, let us call it Q, has a real
effect on business decisions and human behaviour.

(premise 4): thus, when P is transformed into Q, it leads to definite
economic and non-economic actions, which I will call S for convenience.

(premise 5): the occurrence of S can have an objective effect on the
respective price of A and B and therefore on N, as economic actors, whom I
will call J and F, adjust their behaviour and prices change as a result,
let's call the change C.

(premise 6): if 5) occurs, then we can say that, although supposedly the
calculation of P resulted in an entity which did not exist in the real
world, namely Q, P through Q has nevertheless had a real effect in the real
world, let us call that effect C.

(premise 7): therefore a value referent, namely P, has become objectified in
the sense that it has acquired an independent existence, it is an
independent datum which, although it is not itself the price of anything in
particular, nevertheless exerts a real effect on the real world of economic
life, namely C.

(premise 8): but since P and Q are in this sense real abstractions, we are
dealing with entities influencing decisions and actions by economic actors
which go beyond prices, i.e. economic behaviour is not simply influenced by
direct prices but by derived prices which do not refer to specific priced
goods A and B.

(premise 9): but the real price of A and B may not be known, it may be
possible to know that price only in the future, therefore we may only be
able to estimate P, or establish its precise magnitude through negotiation,
which I will call an X situation and I will call the estimate P'.

(premise 10): therefore if X occurs, and we do wish to make a transaction
involving A and B, then we must apply a valuation referent which is not
reducible to any existing price, although it may be derived from existing
prices, but if X holds, this valuation referent affects the magnitude of P',
when P' is finally settled.

(premise 11): if X occurs, but P' cannot equate to P in a finite real time
(perhaps it can only be estimated or predicted without a sufficient
likelihood of accuracy or occurrence), then market uncertainty occurs, which
I will call situation Y.

(premise 12): if Y occurs, then even although P' does not equate to P, P'
may still affect the magnitude of the prices of A, B and C, because J and F
can either withdraw from the market, affecting prices, or they will be using
another valuation referent in order to find P, referring to a different set
of prices, let's call that referent Z, where Z is subject to exactly the
same conditions as P, such that Z' may also occur, causing X and C.

(premise 13): if there are these competing valuation referents P and Z,
neither of which can be found, when X occurs (so we are left with P' and
Z'), then J and F are forced to make rational choices between P' and Z', but
in order to do so rationally, they need an external criterion L with which
to evaluate the choice of P' or Z', let us call that situation M.

(premise 14:) if M occurs, it is clear that to find L, we must go beyond P'
or Z' or any other entity in the same ontological class, in other words, we
must refer to something which has nothing to do with prices.

Well I could continue through the whole alfabet, but I guess you can
complete the story.

Regards

Jurriaan

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