Louis,
If you still have the file, could you re-post the speech.
Or, if it is in the archive, could you send me the site name?
Thanks a million,
Jason
The official translation of Cuban President Fidel Castro's statement of
welcome to Pope John Paul II:
Holy Father,
The land you have just kissed is honored by your presence. You will not
find here the peaceful and generous native people who inhabited this island
when the first Europeans
At 15:48 22/01/98 -0800, you wrote:
Before you give the Pope too much credit, he is a far cry from Pope John.
Also, the rhetoric is not far from that of Solzhenitsin (sp?). The Pope
has supported just about every repressive regime around the world. He was
the first to recognize the Haitian
I said:
why castro would even have the old bastard in cuba amazes me.
Jim said in reply:
Response: I think it was more in the order of a tactical compromise
for the purpose of achieving some kind of leverage or authority to
help end the social systems destabilization campain and embargo that
Louis notes:
He [Fidel] went so far
as to defend liberation theology during the 1980s in a series of speeches
that are contained in the volume "Socialism and Religion" or something to
that effect.
Interviews with Frei Betto, around 1987, published in Spanish in Cuba and
Nicaragua as "Fidel y la
Steve Philion:
My impression is the opposite. I certainly don't oppose Cuba's efforts to
lift the embargo, but I'm very doubtful that lifting the embargo will
strengthen socialism. The experience of China comes to mind right away.
How do you see Cuba going a different route? I'm not saying it's
BTW, does anyone remember the details of his infamous appearance in
Nicaragua where, if I remember it correctly, he virtually endorsed Reagan's
secret war on that country?
His visit to Nicaragua was a horrible affair. The mission from the outset
was in general to undermine the Sandinistas and
At 03:48 PM 1/22/98 -0800, Michael Perelman wrote:
Before you give the Pope too much credit, he is a far cry from Pope John.
Also, the rhetoric is not far from that of Solzhenitsin (sp?). The Pope
has supported just about every repressive regime around the world. He was
the first to recognize
Bill Griffith, creator of "Zippy", posed the question
a couple of years ago after his visit to Cuba. He had
himself discussing the possible effects of an end to the
embargo with Juan Antonio Blanco and asks, "Do you really
think that the good things that you have achieved can stand
up
Posted at 7:40 p.m. EST Wednesday, January 21, 1998 Translation of
Castro's speech
The official translation of Cuban President Fidel Castro's statement of
welcome to Pope John Paul II:
Holy Father,
The land you have just kissed is honored by your presence. You will not
find here the peaceful
Friends,
Wow! Fidel's address to the Pope is amazing. It has great power and emotional
weight. Thaks to Louis for posting it.
Michael yates
Before you give the Pope too much credit, he is a far cry from Pope John.
Also, the rhetoric is not far from that of Solzhenitsin (sp?). The Pope
has supported just about every repressive regime around the world. He was
the first to recognize the Haitian coup, if I remember correctly.
--
It is important to keep track of shifts in what the Pope *is saying now*.
According to the New Yorker article, Castro claims that the speech at the
World Hunger Conference closest in spirit to his own was the Pope's. I am
not saying that the Pope has become Ernesto Cardenal, but that if Castro
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At 15:48 22/01/98 -0800, you wrote:
Before you give the Pope too much credit, he is a far cry from Pope John.
Also, the rhetoric is not far from that of Solzhenitsin
On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Louis Proyect wrote:
[If the blockade is lifted] socialism will be strengthened. That's a
fact.
Louis Proyect
Louis,
My impression is the opposite. I certainly don't oppose Cuba's efforts to
lift the embargo, but I'm very doubtful that lifting the embargo will
Bill Mitchell:
why castro would even have the old bastard in cuba amazes me.
One important reason is that the Pope has told reporters that he is for
ending the US trade embargo. One of the things that is missing in this
discussion is politics. The sole criterion that any revolutionary leader
Louis P. writes: It is important to keep track of shifts in what the Pope
*is saying now*. According to the New Yorker article, Castro claims that the
speech at the
World Hunger Conference closest in spirit to his own was the Pope's. ...
Working as I do at a Catholic (Jesuit) University, my feel
Friends,
Wow! Fidel's address to the Pope is amazing. It has great power and
emotional
weight. Thaks to Louis for posting it.
Michael yates
Thanks, Mike. Once again I urge everybody to pick up the current issue of
the New Yorker, which has some absolutely first-rate articles on Cuba. I
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