I have been thinking about the recent state of pen-l. We are getting a lot of long posts without much context, sectarian posts, and very little that has to do with economics. I don’t want to see the list become a purely academic exercise, but I think that there is a need for a venue to discuss the relationship between economic conditions and the potential for political change. I think that there is also a need to help progressives understand the economy and to critique conventional economic theory. Maybe we can think about how to improve the situation over the next day or two. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]