http://www.ea1.com/CARP/tiller/index.html Here's a somewhat dated story in the AgBiz Tiller that gives a clear explanation of insider trading in cattle futures, circa 1978, in which Hillary Clinton did her bit of magic. It strikes me that this is exactly what Gene Coyle is talking about when he discusses manipulation of undifferentiated commodity vis-a-vis energy production. tim ===== Check out the Chico Examiner listserves at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisorderlyConduct http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ChicoLeft Subscribe to the Chico Examiner for only $40 annually or $25 for six months. Mail cash or check payabe to "Tim Bousquet" to POBox 4627, Chico CA 95927 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/