The heart of the matter for me is that if men stopped paying women for
sex, the entire problem of prostitution would disappear. What would it
take for men to do that? I don't know; taking themselves and their
passions seriously? That would be a good start.
Yes I can see that, but that is a
I wrote:
Involvement in prostitution can be due to a position of strength or one of
weakness, but it would be more correct to say probably, that it is the
overall result of an imbalanced combination of weaknesses and strengths in
the human personality, which, in turn, is the result of the
please don't overpost.y
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 12:02:10PM +0100, Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
The heart of the matter for me is that if men stopped paying women for
sex, the entire problem of prostitution would disappear. What would it
take for men to do that? I don't know; taking themselves
Nay it's a far richer vein of problems than that as far as feminists are
concerned:
Basically how I personally evaluate feminists is on whether they wish to
strengthen the toiling classes, the direct producers, the proletarians and
peasants, or whether they seek to weaken them. Are they a help
Jurriaan Bendien wrote:
Ultimately, theoretically, I consider prostitution as the core problem of
the whole feminist problematic, and I cannot very well get along with
feminist moralists who spout drivel about this, and vent all sorts of
confusing abstractions, rather than making a specific,
... the Chinese trade surplus from its export to the United States has a
quadrupling effect on added US gross domestic product (GDP). In other words,
for every dollar of US trade deficit in favor of China, the US economy
registers $4 of additional GDP in value-adding services, such as marketing,
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... the Chinese trade surplus from its export to the United States has a
quadrupling effect on added US gross domestic product (GDP). In other
words,
for every dollar of US trade deficit in favor of China, the US economy
Well, if 60-75 cents of every $ of imports from China to the US are
from-to US firms [intrafirm commodity chains] that are located there why
should we insist on seeing contemporary trade accounting flows/identities
as first and foremost having to do with nations simply by virtue of the
path
... the Chinese trade surplus from its export to the United States has a
quadrupling effect on added US gross domestic product (GDP). In other words,
for every dollar of US trade deficit in favor of China, the US economy
registers $4 of additional GDP in value-adding services, such as marketing,
These services add to the price of products--thus they do increase
the *current dollar* GDP. But they add nothing at all to the *real*
quantity of produced *final* goods and services. Thus they add
nothing at all to *real* GDP.
But what is real GDP in that case ? The American concept is
If this number is true -- I doubt it -- it also has to do with the low
cost of the Chinese products. A $2 Nike shoe that sells for $120. If
the shoe had been made in the U.S. for $40, it would have added $38 to
the US GDP.
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 11:01:33PM -0500, Shane Mage wrote:
... the
These services add to the price of products--thus they do increase
the *current dollar* GDP. But they add nothing at all to the *real*
quantity of produced *final* goods and services. Thus they add
nothing at all to *real* GDP.
But what is real GDP in that case ? The American concept is
If I buy a dozen large brown eggs, the net contribution to
GDP in constant (say 1990) dollars is what I would have
had to pay for them in 1990. It makes no *real GDP* difference at
all how much of the price I actually paid went to the farmer
and how much to various middlemen and indirect
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