At 14:40 13/11/00 -0800, Michael Perelman wrote:
Chris, I already told Louis offlist to tone down the humor and he
agreed. Your
point about the role of the monasteries is appropriate. Louis Mumford
made the
same argument. However, in your posts do not directly challenge Louis or
anybody
e: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 7:30 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:4437] Re: Re: Influence and its causes - an overdue aside.
At 14:40 13/11/00 -0800, Michael Perelman wrote:
Chris, I already told Louis offlist to tone down the humor and he
agreed. Your
point about the role of the monasteries is appropriate.
Chris Buford:
That could be commented on as to whether it is sufficient or insufficient.
Did Hill give Ireland no more attention than the fact that clover seed
became available in London in 1950 and is valuable for using waste-land?
I believe that clover seed was invented in the 12th century
At 10:28 13/11/00 -0500, Louis Proyect wrote:
Chris Buford:
That could be commented on as to whether it is sufficient or insufficient.
Did Hill give Ireland no more attention than the fact that clover seed
became available in London in 1950 and is valuable for using waste-land?
I believe that
A week ago [6.11.2000] Louis Proyect wrote:
Not only do Hobsbawm, Hill and Thompson fail to live up to the example of
T.A. Jackson, they seem to have forgotten the lessons imparted by A.L.
Morton, the Dean of British Communist historians, who gave the proper
emphasis to Ireland. In the
Thank you.
It is hard to evaluate the argument that to which you responded with the
passage from Hobsbawm, that some of the English marxist historians did not
give the proper emphasis to Ireland.
As far as the criticism of Hill is concerned I cannot see how it fits.
Although not centrally
Chris Burford:
I do not see that one would expect him to put the thesis and be able to
martial the facts that Proyect and Philip Ferguson expect.
But clearly it is not the case that the argument I was postulating was not
opposed to the thesis that despite the existence of fen-clearing in the
At 20:30 12/11/00 -0500, Proyect wrote:
Chris Burford:
I do not see that one would expect him to put the thesis and be able to
martial the facts that Proyect and Philip Ferguson expect.
But clearly it is not the case that the argument I was postulating was not
opposed to the thesis that
