Re: Is this Stalingrad?

2004-05-02 Thread Chris Burford
Dear Jim I think we both agree the more important question is whether it is Stalingrad now. Today it is clear that US forces cannot go into the centre of Fallujah, and tonight cannot go into the centre of Najaf although 6 US troops have just been killed by mortar fire from within Najaf if the rep

Re: Is this Stalingrad?

2004-05-01 Thread Devine, James
I wrote: >>you talked about Stalingrad in Iraq a little more than a year ago and that scenario didn't work out. Why was that prediction/understanding wrong? The current "Stalingrad" seems more plausible, but your overuse of the term pushes me to be skeptical and to wonder it maybe things are better

Re: Is this Stalingrad?

2004-04-30 Thread Chris Burford
see <<< >>> below - Original Message - From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Is this Stalingrad? Chris, you talked about Stalingrad in Iraq a little more than

Re: Is this Stalingrad?

2004-04-30 Thread joanna bujes
e some way to oppose the war while supporting the troops. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine -Original Message- From: Chris Burford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subjec

Re: Is this Stalingrad?

2004-04-30 Thread Devine, James
t: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:02 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEN-L] Is this Stalingrad? > > > The hegemonic coalition forces are not going to get encircled and be > forced to surrender, but Fallujah is arguably the Stalingrad of this > war - the advanced point

Is this Stalingrad?

2004-04-30 Thread Charles Brown
Well said, nicely put, Chris, Lesser evil , indeed. We do have an American tradition of rooting for the underdog. There's even a play called "Damned Yankees" where the devil helps the last place baseball team beat the New York Yankees for the championship. Charles From: Chris Burford The he

Is this Stalingrad?

2004-04-29 Thread Chris Burford
The hegemonic coalition forces are not going to get encircled and be forced to surrender, but Fallujah is arguably the Stalingrad of this war - the advanced point that the invaders could not take, the point where they found their logistical, and in this case, particularly their political, lines of