Re: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-19 Thread Jim Devine
Yoshie writes:You are right with regard to the Great Depression in the 30s, but today's Japan does not have "extreme unemployment," which has been one of the reasons why we haven't seen working-class revolts yet. Hardships have mainly hit new women college graduates, salarymen nearing the

Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-14 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Hi Mat: Yoshie- I would say Miyabe's book gives a very different view of consumer credit in Japan than what you put forward. It does argue that there are a group of people who do not go for credit cards, but this is not due to their unavailability, etc. I will try to type a few paragraphs in

Re: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-14 Thread Jim Devine
At 06:30 PM 12/14/00 -0500, you wrote: Hi Jim D.: Yoshie quotes Jan Kregel sayingClearly, in present conditions it is not the lack of a credible inflation policy [as he dubs Krugman's cure], but a credible interest rate policy that is creating difficulty. As Keynes notes in relation to

Re: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-14 Thread Stephen E Philion
(B) Nobuhito Kishi, "Lies, Damned Lies: The Real Story of Unemployment in Japan," at http://www.nira.go.jp/publ/review/96winter/kishi.html, a link to Sogo Kenkyu Kaihatsu Kiko [National Institute for Research Advancement].

Deflation Persists in Japan (was Japan's Debt)

2000-12-14 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
not involve new spending. This is the 10th package the government has announced in a decade. These packages have brought its stimulus spending to more than Y120,000bn, and helped raise Japan's debt to gross domestic product towards 130 per cent, the highest ratio in the industrialised world

Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-13 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Mat wrote: By the way, I just read a novel that includes an interesting exploration of consumer debt and personal bankruptcy in Japan: Miyuki Miyabe, _All She Was Worth_ A lawyer in the book argues that there is a tendency for society to blame the individual who goes into debt, but that the

Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-13 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Jim D. wrote: BTW, I think one way that Japan could recover is to imitate an old US practice. Give aid to a poor area (such as East St. Louis, Illinois) but "tie" it so that it can only be spent in Japan. It takes a real burning ambition to become _the_ global hegemon -- as opposed to a

Re: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-13 Thread Jim Devine
Yoshie quotes Jan Kregel sayingClearly, in present conditions it is not the lack of a credible inflation policy [as he dubs Krugman's cure], but a credible interest rate policy that is creating difficulty. As Keynes notes in relation to Fisher's recommendations of inflating out of the Great

RE: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-13 Thread Forstater, Mathew
Levy. Marc Andre Pigeon's Minskian interpretation, e.g. By the way, is it cool that Yoshie is evaluating Levy working papers and I am discussing Japanese novels, or is this scary?! -Original Message- From: Yoshie Furuhashi To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/13/00 3:24 AM Subject: [PEN-L:6097] R

RE: Re: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-13 Thread Forstater, Mathew
Jim- Are you an advocate of IS-LM?? Is this analysis totally wrong?

Re: RE: Re: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-13 Thread Jim Devine
At 10:42 AM 12/13/00 -0600, you wrote: Jim- Are you an advocate of IS-LM?? No, but ISLM provides a good language for the _start_ of a discussion, since almost every macroeconomist knows it. For example, Paul Davidson, a well-known anti-ISLMicist, uses IS-LM in his paper on the finance demand

RE: RE: Re: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-13 Thread Forstater, Mathew
Yoshie- I would say Miyabe's book gives a very different view of consumer credit in Japan than what you put forward. It does argue that there are a group of people who do not go for credit cards, but this is not due to their unavailability, etc. I will try to type a few paragraphs in later. Some

Re: RE: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-13 Thread Rob Schaap
By the way, is it cool that Yoshie is evaluating Levy working papers and I am discussing Japanese novels, or is this scary?! Fantastically cool, Matt! Only a jack of all trades can really aspire to be master of one! Especially when the one in question is political economy, eh? I realise it's

Re: Re: RE: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-13 Thread Jim Devine
At 04:29 AM 12/14/00 +1000, you wrote: Fantastically cool, Matt! Only a jack of all trades can really aspire to be master of one! or jill of all trades, in Yoshie's case. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

Re: Re: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-13 Thread Peter Dorman
Thanks, Dennis. Can you provide some references? Peter Dennis Robert Redmond wrote: On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Peter Dorman wrote: investment. The structural question is whether the elimination of these unproductive investments, and the resulting financial drag, can be accomplished within

RE: Japan's Debt

2000-12-12 Thread Forstater, Mathew
"Krugman on the Liquidity Trap: Why Inflation Won't Bring Recovery In Japan," Jerome Levy Economics Institute, Working Paper No. 298, March 2000 Jan. A. Kregel Abstract Paul Krugman has argued that Japan is in a liquidity trap and that it can recover only if the central bank there follows a

RE: Japan's Debt

2000-12-12 Thread Forstater, Mathew
By the way, I just read a novel that includes an interesting exploration of consumer debt and personal bankruptcy in Japan: Miyuki Miyabe, _All She Was Worth_ A lawyer in the book argues that there is a tendency for society to blame the individual who goes into debt, but that the fault really

Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-12 Thread Jim Devine
uidity trap." In any case, this is consistent with Keynes' macroeconomics. As for Japan's debt, it depends on what kind of debt you're talking about. While the private debt is large, Japan's a net creditor internationally. (The US is a net debtor internationally.) If it's a referenc

Re: RE: Japan's Debt

2000-12-12 Thread Jim Devine
At 11:20 AM 12/12/00 -0600, you wrote: "Krugman on the Liquidity Trap: Why Inflation Won't Bring Recovery In Japan," Jerome Levy Economics Institute, Working Paper No. 298, March 2000 Jan. A. Kregel Abstract Paul Krugman has argued that Japan is in a liquidity trap and that it can recover only

Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-12 Thread Peter Dorman
I'm not an expert on Japan either, but I think Jim's analysis of Japanese financial fragility is correct. It needs to be understood in the context of that country's system of corporate finance, networks of firms under the guidance of lead banks. These networks partly socialized the risks of

Re: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-12 Thread Michael Perelman
One consideration regarding Japan is that, so far as I understand, Japan's deficit has been used for massive public works spending, which could mean greater productivity in the future. Peter Dorman wrote: I'm not an expert on Japan either, but I think Jim's analysis of Japanese financial

Re: Re: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-12 Thread Jim Devine
At 01:45 PM 12/12/00 -0800, you wrote: One consideration regarding Japan is that, so far as I understand, Japan's deficit has been used for massive public works spending, which could mean greater productivity in the future. on the other hand, I've heard that they've actually encountered

Re: Re: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-12 Thread Peter Dorman
Well, this refers to the fiscal deficit, which is not such a big problem (compared to the financial fragility problem). Also, according to Bill Tabb's book on Japan (and other sources I've seen), "infrastructural" spending in Japan comes pretty close to Keynes' admonition to dig holes and fill

Re: Re: Re: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-12 Thread Anthony DCosta
:35 -0800 From: Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:6083] Re: Re: Re: Japan's Debt At 01:45 PM 12/12/00 -0800, you wrote: One consideration regarding Japan is that, so far as I understand, Japan's deficit has been used for

Re: Re: Japan's Debt

2000-12-12 Thread Dennis Robert Redmond
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Peter Dorman wrote: investment. The structural question is whether the elimination of these unproductive investments, and the resulting financial drag, can be accomplished within the political-economic framework of Japanese capitalism. So far, Japan has not found a way

Japan's Debt

2000-12-11 Thread Philip J. McLewin
Today's Wall Street Journal had an article on "Japan's Massive Debt Threatens Any Recovery," with a sub-title "No Solution in Sight As Low Tax Revenues Compounds Problem." The news story calls attention to Japan's 8 fiscal stimulus packages since 1983 totalling 112 trillion yen -- "a figure