Russian media

2004-08-03 Thread Chris Doss
I am reminded by a recent exchange that the party line in the West is that the Russian media are uniformly pro-Putin. This is not true. The three national TV channels generally follow the Kremlin line. Some political shows have closed, which is a shame. However, this is not true of the print

Re: How Mass is Mass Media?

2004-07-29 Thread Devine, James
Ken Hanly writes: > All I know is that Jesus gets to vote first since he saith: > > He (sic) who is without sin gets to cast the first ballot.. I wonder: who gets to cast the second stone? jim devine

Re: How Mass is Mass Media?

2004-07-29 Thread ken hanly
bject: Re: [PEN-L] How Mass is Mass Media? > >Kenneth Burke repeats a conversation in which one party says, "I'm a > >Christian," and the other party replies, "Yes, but who are you a > >Christian AGAINST?" > > > >according to one observer, th

Re: How Mass is Mass Media?

2004-07-28 Thread Dan Scanlan
Kenneth Burke repeats a conversation in which one party says, "I'm a Christian," and the other party replies, "Yes, but who are you a Christian AGAINST?" according to one observer, the following sign was seen at the DP convention. "Which Way Would Jesus Vote?" Only evidence available is who he thre

Re: How Mass is Mass Media?

2004-07-28 Thread Devine, James
Kenneth Burke repeats a conversation in which one party says, "I'm a Christian," and the other party replies, "Yes, but who are you a Christian AGAINST?" according to one observer, the following sign was seen at the DP convention. "Which Way Would Jesus Vote?" [sigh] jd

How Mass is Mass Media?

2004-07-28 Thread Carrol Cox
What percentage of the adult population watches Fox News? What percentage of the adult population watches ABC and/or CBS and/or NBC but _not_ Fox? What percentage of the adult population watches Local News but no network news? What percentage of the adult population watches watches local news _a

Re: Media Matters for America

2004-05-03 Thread Michael Perelman
Wouldn't a survey like this be very sensitive to its framing? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Media Matters for America

2004-05-03 Thread ravi
<http://mediamatters.org/> Plurality of Voters Say Conservatives Have More Influence in the Media Than Liberals http://mediamatters.org/items/200405020001 Findings of a National Survey Conducted for Media Matters for America Media Matters for America recently commissioned a poll by the

Lies that my media tell me!

2004-04-28 Thread Sabri Oncu
Poll: Iraqis conflicted about war, its impact Survey done mostly before recent cycle of violence BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Nearly half the Iraqis polled in a survey conducted primarily in March and early April said they believed the U.S.-led war had done more harm than good, but 61 percent of respond

Re: Shifting genres in media/"pop culture" and the shifting SSA of Monopoly Capitalism/Imperialism

2004-04-01 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/26/2004 5:41:35 PM >>> Maybe Michael Hoover or Yoshie can help us out, but I think that the morality police during the 30s pressured Hollywood not to show class conflict. Michael Perelman <> excuse tardy reply, placed above in "to do" file... decline of class confl

[Fwd: Cuban Media, Response from Dangl and Howard]

2004-04-01 Thread Louis Proyect
This is a reply from Benjamin Dangl and April Howard, who co-authored a critique of Cuban media on Counterpunch that I critiqued on Marxmail a week or so ago. They mention the Gehry Art Center at Bard below. I should add that the building had a cost overrun of $45 million, conceivably more than

Re: Shifting genres in media/"pop culture" and the shifting SSA of Monopoly Capitalism/Imperialism

2004-03-26 Thread joanna bujes
Craven, Jim wrote: In the case of the "Reality shows", they are relatively cheap to produce, focus on trappings of wealth (temporary) like being set in exotic locales and big mansions, and of course utilize, celebrate, preach, reward and reinforce: rat-race individualism, greed, selfishness, intri

Re: Shifting genres in media/"pop culture" and the shifting SSA of Monopoly Capitalism/Imperialism

2004-03-26 Thread Michael Perelman
Maybe Michael Hoover or Yoshie can help us out, but I think that the morality police during the 30s pressured Hollywood not to show class conflict. Michael, a distant relative of the Warner Bros, both of whose grandfathers along with many others in town, were offered a $50 partnership, and whose o

Re: Shifting genres in media/"pop culture" and the shifting SSA of Monopoly Capitalism/Imperialism

2004-03-26 Thread Craven, Jim
With the cowboys, the railroad people, bankers, and owners of large estates were often the bad guys. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu Very perceptive. You can of course add us "savage Indians

Re: Shifting genres in media/"pop culture" and the shifting SSA of Monopoly Capitalism/Imperialism

2004-03-26 Thread Michael Perelman
With the cowboys, the railroad people, bankers, and owners of large estates were often the bad guys. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Shifting genres in media/"pop culture" and the shifting SSA of Monopoly Capitalism/Imperialism

2004-03-26 Thread Craven, Jim
Title: Message Does anyone know of work being done to analyze emergences/passings/dominance of various genres in media/"pop culture" (content, scope, impacts, sponsors, target demographics, revenues, linkages, methods of competition etc) and the shifting SSA and SSA requirements o

Cuban media

2004-03-24 Thread Louis Proyect
In today's Counterpunch (March 24, 2004), there's an interesting article by Benjamin Dangl and April Howard on the Cuban media, which originated on their website: http://www.upsidedownworld.org. Howard is a student at Bard College, my alma mater. No doubt she made the acquaintance th

FW: New Palm Digital Media books by Michael Perelman

2004-02-28 Thread Devine, James
perhaps of interest to pen-pals... -Original Message- From: Palm Digital Media [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 2/28/2004 12:20 AM To: Devine, James Cc: Subject: New Palm Digital Media books by Michael Perelman

Women's health: Palestinian Media Watch

2003-12-20 Thread Brian McKenna
from Ray Hanania. . . . A detailed profile of Palestine Media Watch was published this week that examines how organizations have been able to influence the media using the Internet that I thought members would be interested in ... == The revolution will be e-mailed Can a

note on the venezuelan media

2003-11-22 Thread michael a. lebowitz
One of the biggest jokes in Venezuela at this time of the sign-up campaigns for recall are the regulations on the media.(Signing for the recall of 38 opposition members of parliament is occurring right now, and next Friday-Monday will be the signature campaign to call for a recall

moyers on media

2003-10-12 Thread Dan Scanlan
On Big Media Bill Moyers Truthout | Commentary Friday 10 October 2003 If you've wondered why we have kept returning to the story of big media on this broadcast, we have some answers this week. It's because the big media companies keep getting bigger — with more and more power over ou

Biased media will be banned in the "new" Iraq

2003-09-23 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
US-backed council bars Arab media By Roshan Muhammed Salih Tuesday 23 September 2003, 18:11 Makka Time, 15:11 GMT Freedom of speech campaigners have condemned US-appointed authorities in Iraq for banning television stations Aljazeera and al- Arabiya. Iraq's Governing Council said on Tuesda

FAIR on Clark, media

2003-09-22 Thread Dan Scanlan
FAIR-L Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting Media analysis, critiques and activism http://www.fair.org/press-releases/clark-antiwar.html MEDIA ADVISORY: Wesley Clark: The New Anti-War Candidate? Record Shows Clark Cheered Iraq War as "Right Call" Sept

Re: Take Back the Media

2003-08-02 Thread Michael Pollak
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In this line, are there any good marxist histories of the media in > print? Erik Barnouw's _Tube of Plenty: The Evolution of American Television_ (which starts in the era of radio) is very good, although it only goes up to through 1975,

Re: Take Back the Media

2003-08-02 Thread Bill Lear
On Saturday, August 2, 2003 at 18:49:11 (-0400) Doug Henwood writes: >... >He would say so. He's a co-editor of Monthly Review, too. It's why >he's so much better than Mark Crispin Miller. Why would he say so? I don't recall it being particularly marxist. And why would being marxist make one a be

Re: Take Back the Media

2003-08-02 Thread Doug Henwood
Bill Lear wrote: See Robert McChesney's work on this topic, Telecommunications, Mass Media & Democracy, also his later Rich Media, Poor Democracy. Good stuff, not "marxist". He would say so. He's a co-editor of Monthly Review, too. It's why he's so much better than Mark Crispin Miller. Doug

Re: Take Back the Media

2003-08-02 Thread Doug Henwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this line, are there any good marxist histories of the media in print? Robert McChesney's history of radio, whose title escapes me, is really good. Doug

Re: Take Back the Media

2003-08-02 Thread Bill Lear
On Saturday, August 2, 2003 at 22:27:09 (GMT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I just visited takebackthemedia.com for the first time, and among other things it >raises one question for me. Instead of taking back the media, shouldn't we be taking >it over? Was the media ever the voice

Take Back the Media

2003-08-02 Thread bgramlich
I just visited takebackthemedia.com for the first time, and among other things it raises one question for me. Instead of taking back the media, shouldn't we be taking it over? Was the media ever the voice of the people? To take it back implies that it once was yours, did the common man

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-24 Thread Kenneth Campbell
wichboard: > >POUR QUE VOUS AIMIEZ >QUELQUE CHOSE IL FAUT >QUE VOUS L'AYEZ VU et ENTENDU >DEPUIS LONGTEMPS tas D'IDIOTS Grin. That's another rather more direct way to put it. Of course, the targets of the criticism are different, in some respects, I suppose. Consumers

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-24 Thread Tom Walker
Kenneth Campbell wrote: > Rather, those spouting "conventional wisdoms" are able to be more easily > understood in the small space of time they will get on camera. Or, to cite the Far-Sighted Manifesto by Francis Picabia, worn by André Breton on a sandwichboard: POUR QUE VOUS AIMIEZ QUELQUE CHO

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-24 Thread Kenneth Campbell
looking at the world around them, and coming up with twists on themes that already have a lot of "brand/recognition value" out there. That allows them to, more or less, rip off the recognition value of something else. It makes "30 second spots" or whatever more powerful. It

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Tom Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Carrol Cox wrote, > > > > This "high and higher efforts" that Danto speaks of, leading to chaos, > > must owe something to Laurel and Hardy as well. And of course Chaplin's > > Modern Times. In fact to much of the great slapsti

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Walker
Carrol Cox wrote, > This "high and higher efforts" that Danto speaks of, leading to chaos, > must owe something to Laurel and Hardy as well. And of course Chaplin's > Modern Times. In fact to much of the great slapstick, 1915-1940. Yes, also constructivism and dada. As Walter Benjamin wrote: "Mo

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Walker
Or, digging deeper into the ruins... Homage to New York <1960> http://www.artmuseum.net/w2vr/archives/Kluver/00_Homage.html I asked Jean what I could do for him. Jean explained that he wanted to make a machine that destroyed itself and that he needed bicycle wheels... ...It was all over in 27 m

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Carrol Cox
Tom Walker wrote: > > Science World here in Vancouver runs a continuous loop of the 1987 Fischli > For another take on "The > Way Things Go," here's an excerpt from Arthur Danto: > > http://www.postmedia.net/999/fischweiss1.htm > >From Danto: the individual episodes seem to happen one after anoth

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Walker
Science World here in Vancouver runs a continuous loop of the 1987 Fischli and Weiss film "The Way Things Go". The borrowings of the Honda ad from the film are obvious to anyone who has viewed both. What is also obvious -- and ominous -- are the "non-borrowings": the autotalitarian elision of the g

Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Kenneth Campbell
at interest that the provider of these things gains in response shrinks -- until the over-abundance them these things results in the viewer/consumer eventually finding it annoying and resorting to evasion of ad intrusion. The only viable form of advertising in a true multiplex of media is sponsorshi

Mike Wayne/Marxism and Media Studies

2003-06-21 Thread Michael Hoover
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Who Owns What/Media Ownership

2003-06-18 Thread Michael Hoover
Here's an interesting and worthwhile webpage http://www.cjr.org/owners/ for those who are interested in learning more about the extent of media concentration in this country (and world). This page is maintained by the Columbia Journalism Review, a magazine published by Columbia Univers

Fight against big media

2003-06-17 Thread michael perelman
Forwarded from Bob McChesney: The situation in Washington is critical for media ownership. Please read this, act on it, and pass it on. It is a statement from the group I started with John Nichols, called Free Press. We have a genuine chance to make history, and reverse decades of corrupt media

Campbell orders media shake up

2003-03-30 Thread Chris Burford
From the anti-war Independent (UK):- [other papers allege that Campbell is furious with the bias of the BBC.] Campbell orders media shake-up By Jo Dillon, Deputy Political Editor 30 March 2003 Alastair Campbell has ordered the Whitehall press machine to get a grip of the war coverage

Rightwing media and the war

2003-03-28 Thread Louis Proyect
Channel is another huge media company that has openly enlisted in the pro-war movement, as Paul Krugman pointed out in a recent NY Times column: Channels of Influence By PAUL KRUGMAN By and large, recent pro-war rallies haven't drawn nearly as many people as antiwar rallies, but they

Re: death toll and media watch

2003-03-22 Thread Hari Kumar
Chris: I agree that this might be useful. Having heard the sanitary Frank briefing on the box just now, such a listing is even more important. It seemed ot me that the only serious questioning came form the BBC & the CBC. As a Canadian aside, the news regarding the "friendly fire" incident (In Afg

death toll and media watch

2003-03-22 Thread Chris Burford
f you are not an absolute pacifist. We need to be suspicious and vigilant about distortions in reporting. Media watch has been proved effective and is probably being done by a number of centres - any URL's anyone? I note what may be a mere coincidence that the two helicopter crashes both

Old and new media

2003-03-20 Thread Louis Proyect
from the military or inside-the-beltway thinktanks. This is where the Pacifica Network shines. During the Vietnam war, reporter Dale Minor broadcast the truth from Saigon. Today, I heard a reporter from Baghdad saying things that will never be heard on the mainstream media. One of the benefits

Manipulating the media

2003-03-12 Thread Louis Proyect
tched. Mr. Donaldson—who, for all his booming caricature, didn’t hesitate to ask Ronald Reagan about Iran-contra or Bill Clinton about Juanita Broaddrick—winced as he saw deferential reporters trying to question a scripted President in a rare, potentially historic media availability that sailed into

[Fwd: Turkey: Democracy functioning! BUT US MEDIA ARE NOT!!!]

2003-03-01 Thread eatonak
My apologies; the "correct" second link should have been the following: http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/01/sprj.irq.turkey/index.html Original Message Subject: [PEN-L:35179] Turkey: Democracy functioning! BUT US MEDIA ARE NOT!!!From: <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Turkey: Democracy functioning! BUT US MEDIA ARE NOT!!!

2003-03-01 Thread eatonak
The US media bias recognizes no limits: read the following two statements regarding the size of the demonstration in Ankara from CNN's web site --both are on the same page!!! http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/03/01/sprj.irq.main/index.html Meanwhile, TENS of thousands of Turks holding

Media concentration

2003-02-01 Thread Diane Monaco
e new pay-to-play system." http://feingold.senate.gov/~feingold/speeches/03/01/2003130442.html Statement of U.S. Senator Russ Feingold At the Senate Commerce Committee Hearing On Media Concentration and Ownership in Radio January 30, 2003 Thank you Mr. Chairman and ranking member Holl

Fwd: Media Missing New Evidence About Genoa Violence

2003-01-10 Thread Dan Scanlan
X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 10 16:04:49 2003 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:59:23 -0800 Subject: Media Missing New Evidence About Genoa Violence To: "FAIR-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "FAIR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> R

Media coverage of Iran from what would seem an unlikely source

2002-12-14 Thread Sthelenawine
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michael/ledeen.html PS: If I recall right, about 2 years ago there were a few Reuters news releases about the ordering of reactor units from Russia for those plants in Iran. = http://www.napavalley.com/ Lots of fun stuff to do in Napa Info and reference:

Argentina: Alternative Media & Social Movements (Oct. 17) & OtherUpcoming Events

2002-10-06 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Thursday, October 17 Argentina: Alternative Media and Social Movements / Argentina: Medios Alternativos y Movimientos Sociales Lecture by Marie Trigona, with Videos & Slides / Conferencia por Marie Trigona, con proyeccion de videos y diapositivas Marie Trigona, an independent journalist

Alternative media?

2002-09-01 Thread Louis Proyect
In the late 80s I used to make occasional trips out to Los Angeles to visit friends who were part of a loosely organized Hollywood left. This included fairly successful writers like Michael Elias who grew up about 5 miles from me and wrote "Young Doctors in Love", a memorable parody of hospita

Monopoly media miserbelist manic

2002-06-27 Thread Charles Brown
I wonder if Attorney Dave S. has any rethinking about the level of cooking the books by big accounting firms. I notice that Arthur Anderson is pleading the "Schultz from Hogan's Heroes" defense again , this time with WorldCom: "I know nothing". Could there have been some recessions dur

On the origin of the corporate media

2002-05-25 Thread Michael Perelman
atory role as ensuring corporate stability against upstart new technologies Moreover, by enabling corporate concentration in the media it could indirectly control a force that it could not afford to control openly." Winston, Brian. 1998. Media Technology and Society: A History From the Te

Big bourgeoisie funding of "alternate media" on the Internet

2002-05-20 Thread Charles Brown
Big bourgeoisie funding of "alternate media" on the Internet by Michael Perelman 17 May 2002 23:28 I found Lou's piece very interesting. He mentioned Soros as a funder. He is all over the place, isn't he? He funded a very good anti-drug-war initiative in California and s

Re: Re: Big bourgeoisie funding of "alternate media" on the Internet

2002-05-18 Thread Michael Perelman
I am a little familiar with the Corp. for Public Broadcasting manipulated Pacifica. Although it is a bit different from a liberal donor, it illustrates the danger of reliance on outside funding. Maybe Seth could post a URL for the story. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California Stat

Re: Big bourgeoisie funding of "alternate media" on the Internet

2002-05-18 Thread Seth Sandronsky
May 18, 2002 Greetings PEN-L: Thanks to Lou for shedding light on the money trail to some "alternate media" on the net. On that note, in the May/June issue of Because People Matter, Sacramento's progressive paper, we have a piece by Bay Area activist Jeff Blankfort

Re: Big bourgeoisie funding of "alternate media" on the Internet

2002-05-17 Thread Michael Perelman
I found Lou's piece very interesting. He mentioned Soros as a funder. He is all over the place, isn't he? He funded a very good anti-drug-war initiative in California and some very reactionary politics abroad. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 9592

Re: Big bourgeoisie funding of "alternate media" onthe Internet

2002-05-17 Thread Doug Henwood
Speaking of which...Danny Schechter ("The Media Dissector"), one of the proprietor of Globalvision (which produced the TV show South Africa Now during the 1980s) and Mediachannel.org, was a delegate at the World Economic Forum in NYC this past Feb. Not a correspondent covering it,

Big bourgeoisie funding of "alternate media" on the Internet

2002-05-17 Thread Louis Proyect
nge with Jacob, I learned the following: --Soros' Open Society Institute gave $10,000 to the Independent Media Center in 2000 --It also dispensed $95,000 to Independent Media Institute in 2000 (www.soros.org/osi grants database), the outfit that publishes AlterNet. Meanwhile, I stumbled acr

Turkish Media Bill: Pessimism is not allowed

2002-04-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
Turkey seeks to push through controversial media bill By Leyla Boulton in Ankara Published: April 24 2002 18:47 | Last Updated: April 25 2002 05:28 The Turkish government plans to push through parliament a controversial media bill that clashes with the constitution and the country's commit

From the Turkish Media

2002-03-25 Thread Sabri Oncu
Really interesting things are happening there. I think we are going to war. Also of interest is the change in strategy of the Kurdistan Workers Party, as mentioned in the third piece below. Sabri ++ MILLIYET - March 25, 2002 SENATOR MCCAIN: ''YOU SHOULD PRERARE YOUR LIST'' U.S. Senator Jo

The prison the media mostly ignores...

2002-01-28 Thread Ken Hanly
US held responsible for conditions in Afghan jail By Andrew Buncombe in Washington 29 January 2002 Internal links America was condemned yesterday for conditions in an Afghan jail where more than 3,000 Taliban and al-Qai'da fighters are being held in conditions described as overcrowded and unhygi

Northwest Ohio Peace Coalition Challenge Local Media (Wed., Dec.19)

2001-12-18 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
From: Amjad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brothers and Sisters, The following press release just went out to the media as of a few minutes ago. I have attached it as a word file as well as printed it below in the body of this email. We need to make a strong showing at this demonstration, so please

media bias

2001-11-09 Thread James Devine
a lot is revealed about media bias if we look at what one intelligent US "moderate" is saying: Osama Done Told Me: So how come media objectivity is suddenly a bad thing? By Michael Kinsley [MSN SLATE Magazine] Posted Thursday, November 8, 2001, at 12:49 PM PT Conservative press c

Re: Media priorities

2001-10-05 Thread Stephen E Philion
Now that's going too far. A lot of hard working journalists busted their ass during the OJ Trial to make sure that nothing ever gets more coverage... Hey, what's OJ's take on 9/11? Sorry, I'm l think Charles, it comes down to the media squeezing as much blood money as it ca

Media priorities

2001-10-05 Thread Charles Brown
At this rate , in about six months from now, the amount of media coverage of the September 11 events will equal that of the coverage of the O. J. Simpson trial . CB

Racist responses by media and authorities

2001-09-17 Thread Michael Keaney
Michael Pugliese wrote: World Socialist Website of the ICFI? wsws. A really tiny Trot group, that is remnants of the Workers League of Tim Wohlforth, an acquaintance. Tim isn't a Trot anymore. The Workers League and the ICFI still believe that the US SWP was run by the FBI AND KGB. Not a bad tric

Re: Re: Racist responses by media and authorities

2001-09-15 Thread Michael Pugliese
September 15, 2001 2:41 PM Subject: [PEN-L:17184] Re: Racist responses by media and authorities > At 01:38 PM 09/15/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >There are many examples of racist backlash by individual citizens and groups > >of hooligans but the media and authorities also foster

Re: Re: Racist responses by media and authorities

2001-09-15 Thread Ken Hanly
Sorry. World Socialist website: http://www.wsws.org/index.shtml Cheers, Ken Hanly - Original Message - From: Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: [PEN-L:17184] Re: Racist responses by media and authoriti

Re: Racist responses by media and authorities

2001-09-15 Thread Jim Devine
At 01:38 PM 09/15/2001 -0500, you wrote: >There are many examples of racist backlash by individual citizens and groups >of hooligans but the media and authorities also foster the same. This is >from the WS website: what is "WS"? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine

Racist responses by media and authorities

2001-09-15 Thread Ken Hanly
There are many examples of racist backlash by individual citizens and groups of hooligans but the media and authorities also foster the same. This is from the WS website: On Thursday evening the television networks broadcast lurid reports that the FBI had arrested more than a dozen individuals

intellectuals and the media

2001-09-13 Thread Andrew Hagen
mp;s=said The second piece is in Al-Ahram, the Egyptian newspaper. Edward Said is Palestinian living in the US. He sketches the political and economic dimensions of the flagging Palestinian resistance. The highlight of the article is the plan of Palestinians to rectify their portrait in the Weste

Pentagon/WTC Bombings, Mainstream Media, Socialist Left and Far Right

2001-09-13 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://www.anti-fascism.org/page-special-wtc.html

Re: Re: Media

2001-05-19 Thread Michael Pugliese
- From: "Seth Sandronsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 7:54 AM Subject: [PEN-L:11803] Re: Media > May 19, 2001 > > Hi Tim, > > In my view, we do well to look at the race and gender—as well as the > class—di

Re: Media

2001-05-19 Thread Seth Sandronsky
: Media by Tim Bousquet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I agree: my general view of the world has *big* >problems figuring out >just why it is that publicly-owned media in other >English-speaking >countries has managed to maintain both its >independence and its >remarkably high

Re: Media

2001-05-17 Thread Tim Bousquet
> I agree: my general view of the world has *big* > problems figuring out > just why it is that publicly-owned media in other > English-speaking > countries has managed to maintain both its > independence and its > remarkably high quality. Unfortunately, it doesn't

Media

2001-05-17 Thread Brad DeLong
t;(upon which I may comment, because of course we get to hear and see >a lot of it). > >No comparison. > >You are absolutely and importantly wrong here, mate. I agree: my general view of the world has *big* problems figuring out just why it is that publicly-owned media in other English-

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: government media isbad for you

2001-05-17 Thread Brad DeLong
>Brad DeLong wrote: > >>But maintaining independence of thought and critique is really hard >>when you are paid out of a government budget. > >But it's really easy when you're paid out of the budgets of >advertisers, who don't like anything critical of business >civilization, or even anything a

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: government media is badfor you

2001-05-17 Thread Doug Henwood
Brad DeLong wrote: >But maintaining independence of thought and critique is really hard >when you are paid out of a government budget. But it's really easy when you're paid out of the budgets of advertisers, who don't like anything critical of business civilization, or even anything a bit unc

government media is bad for you

2001-05-17 Thread Keaney Michael
Brad De Long wrote: But maintaining independence of thought and critique is really hard when you are paid out of a government budget. = Whereas, working for Rupert Murdoch or Conrad Black... Michael K.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: government media is bad foryou

2001-05-17 Thread Brad DeLong
>Yeah, but it does get frustrating when you write odes to diversity, putting >'voice' at the very centre of the role of media, cite sources, critique >methodology, empirically refute the 'results', suggest alternative approaches >to the issue etc - and your inte

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-17 Thread Jim Devine
Rob writes: >Yeah, but it does get frustrating when you write odes to diversity, putting >'voice' at the very centre of the role of media, cite sources, critique >methodology, empirically refute the 'results', suggest alternative approaches >to the issue etc - an

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-17 Thread Rob Schaap
> Michael Perelman wrote: > > keep it cool. Yeah, but it does get frustrating when you write odes to diversity, putting 'voice' at the very centre of the role of media, cite sources, critique methodology, empirically refute the 'results', suggest alternative approaches to

Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-16 Thread Andrew Hagen
run a press house. In the US, spies don't need to run a domestic media company. They can get anything into the media by leaking it to either the domestic or foreign press. In terms of maintaining the appearance of a democratic foreign policy while simultaneously maintaining a rigorous, iro

Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-16 Thread Michael Perelman
You are correct that I have not read the paper. NBER charges $5 and it did not appear to be worth the cost to me. What is government control of the press? What happened to Raymond Bonner? The big media are dependent on the government. Which outlet has seriously challenged the government in

Re: Re: Re: Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-16 Thread Michael Perelman
keep it cool. Jim Devine wrote: > If Brad actually deigned to read my stuff on pen-l, he wouldn't post the > following kind of nonsense. However, he did read Rob's contributions, so > there must be some kind of political dyslexia here... -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California Stat

Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-16 Thread Michael Pugliese
:52 PM Subject: [PEN-L:11624] RE: Re: Re: Re: government media is bad for you > > > I would bet that the INDEPENDENT or the GUARDIAN would shy away from > > > criticizing the UK government (especially given the Official Secrets > > Act > > > and the libel laws th

RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-16 Thread Max Sawicky
. . . But the Guardian's greatest Intelligence exploits happened much later, during the Thatcher era. The Guardian was then given the role of dishing Old Labour from the left, which it did very well. . . . Was it Wrong to dish Old Labour from the left, or was the way it was done objectionable? H

RE: Re: Re: Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-16 Thread Mark Jones
> > I would bet that the INDEPENDENT or the GUARDIAN would shy away from > > criticizing the UK government (especially given the Official Secrets > Act > > and the libel laws there) while being able to lambaste the US > government > > with abandon. People there might

Re: Re: Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-16 Thread Jim Devine
he press is very important. > >And now a bunch of people have gone out and actually done some work: they >have compiled statistics on the extent of government control of the media, >and actually found that when you look across countries you can begin to >see the imprint of a free press i

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2001-05-16 Thread Ian Murray
> I would bet that the INDEPENDENT or the GUARDIAN would shy away from > criticizing the UK government (especially given the Official Secrets Act > and the libel laws there) while being able to lambaste the US government > with abandon. People there might be consulting the US media

Re: Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-16 Thread Jim Devine
the GUARDIAN would shy away from criticizing the UK government (especially given the Official Secrets Act and the libel laws there) while being able to lambaste the US government with abandon. People there might be consulting the US media in order to get a little more objectivity on the UK.

Re: Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-16 Thread Brad DeLong
>We all agree that freedom of the press is very important. And now a bunch of people have gone out and actually done some work: they have compiled statistics on the extent of government control of the media, and actually found that when you look across countries you can begin to see

Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-16 Thread Michael Perelman
care and education? Jim Devine wrote: > it's good to hear about progress on Pacifica! > > but I want to amplify my previous point. (1) the reason why the BBC is so > good (compared to the dreadful US media at least) is because of the > independent development of a Labour Part

Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-16 Thread Jim Devine
it's good to hear about progress on Pacifica! but I want to amplify my previous point. (1) the reason why the BBC is so good (compared to the dreadful US media at least) is because of the independent development of a Labour Party there, which broke up the capitalist/government bloc a l

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2001-05-16 Thread Louis Proyect
Jim Devine wrote: >I haven't checked out the econometric methodology, but I think the whole >corporate media vs. government-monopoly media dichotomy is deeply flawed. Speaking of media and big business, the Save Pacifica campaign has just achieved a significant breakthrough:

Re: Re: Re: Re: government media is bad for you

2001-05-16 Thread Jim Devine
I haven't checked out the econometric methodology, but I think the whole corporate media vs. government-monopoly media dichotomy is deeply flawed. It's a libertarian fantasy that the corporations and the government are totally separate entities. They are much more often in cahoot

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