Re: Re: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread joanna bujes
The other great one is "Fontamara" by Ignazio Silone. Joanna At 12:46 PM 03/04/2003 -0800, you wrote: An interesting novel about Italy in the '30s when Mussolini was taking over Ethiopia is "Christ Stopped at Eboli." Its description of the peasants' politics and occasional misdirected

Re: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Eugene Coyle
An interesting novel about Italy in the '30s when Mussolini was taking over Ethiopia is "Christ Stopped at Eboli." Its description of the peasants' politics and occasional misdirected and fruitless violence evokes for me, somehow, today's USA. Gene Coyle Devine, James wrote: I wrote: > Ian

RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:35292] Re: RE: Re: Re: fascism? I wrote: > Ian, isn't that from the journal published by Holocaust deniers? (But then > again, who would be better to describe fascism than fascists?) > Exactly. James Whisker's reading of the rise of Italian > fa

Re: RE: Re: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 10:05 AM Subject: [PEN-L:35290] RE: Re: Re: fascism? > > > I have tried to run down the Mussolini quote several times, > > > unsuc

Re: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:28 AM Subject: [PEN-L:35286] Re: fascism? > I have tried to run down the Mussolini quote several times, > unsuccessfully. > == "Present political re

RE: Re: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:35288] Re: Re: fascism? > > I have tried to run down the Mussolini quote several times, > > unsuccessfully. > > > > Also, the Italian idea was not entirely unique.  Hoover had > a similar > > version.  Roosevelt's NRA (not Bush'

Re: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have tried to run down the Mussolini quote several times, > unsuccessfully. > > Also, the Italian idea was not entirely unique. Hoover had a similar > version. Roosevelt's NRA (not Bush's) was not terribly differe

RE: Re: fascism?

2003-03-04 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:35286] Re: fascism? Michael Perelman writes: >I have tried to run down the Mussolini quote several times, unsuccessfully. >Also, the Italian idea was not entirely unique.  Hoover had a similar version.  Roosevelt's NRA (not Bush's) was not terribly different.< The corpora

Re: RE: RE: Fascism

2001-12-12 Thread Carrol Cox
"Devine, James" wrote: > > > > > I would emphasize the role of modes of production -- and their incumbent > classes -- plus modes of reproduction ("families," kinship, etc.) over > "culture." The latter seems a bit vague to me. But then I'm not an > anthropologist. > "Culture" is a word in r

RE: RE: RE: RE: Fascism

2001-12-12 Thread Brownson, Jamil
ponses may seem parallel between Turkey & Argentina. More later. jb -Original Message- From: Sabri Oncu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 12:48 PM To: PEN-L Subject: [PEN-L:20613] RE: RE: RE: Fascism Jamil writes: > As well, I disagree ab

RE: RE: RE: Fascism

2001-12-12 Thread Sabri Oncu
Jamil writes: > As well, I disagree about modernization & globalization being homogenizing > factors any more than pre-modern cultures of poverty had certain > similarities on a physical plane, e.g., hunger is hunger. Yet even what is a > shared phenomenon such as "hunger' is perceived and respon

RE: RE: RE: Fascism

2001-12-12 Thread Brownson, Jamil
than in it, underlying cultural characteristics differ greatly, especially in private life -- de Certeau's practices & Lefebvre's rhythms or daily life. -Original Message- From: Devine, James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:50 AM To: 

RE: RE: Fascism

2001-12-12 Thread Devine, James
> excellent comments, jim, & of course, teh dictionary > definitions follow ideological usage, as one might expect especially after > reading raymond williams analysis of literature as reflection of class structure and > hegemonic values. Of course dictionary definitions reflect ideology, but

[PEN-L:10994] Re: Re: Fascism

1999-09-15 Thread Ajit Sinha
Carrol Cox wrote: > My own best > guess as to what an American "Hitler" would look like is Jerry > Brown of California. Hay, I tried to get a few votes for Jerry Brown in the primaries. I, of course, didn't have a vote. Was I so wrong? Cheers, ajit sinha

[PEN-L:11004] Re: Re: Re: Fascism

1999-09-15 Thread Doug Henwood
Ajit Sinha wrote: >Hay, I tried to get a few votes for Jerry Brown in the primaries. I, of >course, didn't have a vote. Was I so wrong? Cheers, ajit sinha Check out . Doug

[PEN-L:11000] RE: Re: Re: Fascism

1999-09-15 Thread Max Sawicky
. . . Hay, I tried to get a few votes for Jerry Brown in the primaries. I, of course, didn't have a vote. Was I so wrong? Cheers, ajit sinha No, you weren't. At that time he was the best hope of shaking up the primaries and averting the Clinton primary victory we have come to regret. I tr

[PEN-L:9993] Re: Re: Fascism (was TINAF ...

1999-08-13 Thread Charles Brown
>>> Stephen E Philion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/12/99 07:35PM >>> On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Charles Brown wrote: > > > >>> Carrol Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/12/99 04:24PM >>> > (1) The question of whether Fascism *can* happen here (of course it > can) is not the same as the question of whether Fas

[PEN-L:9977] Re: Re: Fascism (was TINAF ...

1999-08-12 Thread Stephen E Philion
On Thu, 12 Aug 1999, Charles Brown wrote: > > > >>> Carrol Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08/12/99 04:24PM >>> > (1) The question of whether Fascism *can* happen here (of course it > can) is not the same as the question of whether Fascism *will* or is > apt to happen here -- the latter question dep