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> [mailto:owner-pen-l@;galaxy.csuchico.edu]On Behalf Of Michael Perelman
> Sent: 06 November 2002 03:29
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> Subject: [PEN-L:31913] Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re:
> dismantling due process
a very recent book by alain gresch (on the arab israeli conflict) says something to the effect that you cannot argue politics with nationalist who think that people are immutable or transcend history or religious folk who think that god has given them the land.
Going back to Mark's note on how n
My God. Every post I have seen on this thread is toxic. Lou, you know
better and so does Doug. I should throw Bill Lear into the mix. Doug
made a perfectly reasonable statement, as I said before. Please cut the
flaming.
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 07:32:06PM -0500, Louis Proyect wrote:
> Doug Hen
Mark, I cannot believe that you really think Doug is an apologist for
Sharon. He overreacted and then you poured on more fuel. This sort of
behavor is destructive.
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 11:00:43PM -, Mark Jones wrote:
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> > -Original Message-
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> > [ma
Joanna wrote:
> The short answer is that during WWII the soviet people fought against a
> fascism whose explicit aim was their enslavement; in 1989, they were sold
> out by Stalinist bureaucrats and black marketeers.
>
> The shorter answer is that if Stalin had not sabotaged the revolutionary
> o
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:owner-pen-l@;galaxy.csuchico.edu]On Behalf Of Doug Henwood
> Sent: 05 November 2002 22:44
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [PEN-L:31890] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: dismantling due process
> Of course not, you prick. Though I'm not the
I don't and wouldn't excuse Sharon. It is just that this robo-war seems
inexcusably cowardly. With the push for weaponizing space, it seems to be
an immense threat to the world.
Sharon is despicable. This bodes something even worse.
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 10:30:10PM -, Mark Jones wrote:
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> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:owner-pen-l@;galaxy.csuchico.edu]On Behalf Of Michael Perelman
> Sent: 05 November 2002 22:06
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> Subject: [PEN-L:31885] Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: dismantling due process
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> Mark, I agree with Doug here. I unders
Mark wrote:
The next step in his
> intellectual
> >evolution would be to acknowledge the indispensable role of Stalin in
> >defending the existence of the USSR againt imperialist attacks in the
> >1940s-1950s.
Joanna wrote:
>
> I'd give the credit to the Soviet people.
>
Mark wrote:
the
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> At 04:44 PM 11/05/2002 +, you wrote:
> >I've been waiting for years to hear Jim Devine agree with me
> that the Soviet
> >Union was a Good Thing. At last! At last! The next step in his
> intellectual
> >evolution would be to acknowledge the indispensable role of Stalin in
> >defending the
At 04:44 PM 11/05/2002 +, you wrote:
I've been waiting for years to hear Jim Devine agree with me that the Soviet
Union was a Good Thing. At last! At last! The next step in his intellectual
evolution would be to acknowledge the indispensable role of Stalin in
defending the existence of the USS
RE: [PEN-L:31851] RE: Re: RE: Re: dismantling due process
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From: Devine, James
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Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 7:06 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:31860] RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: dismantling due process
>It's part of the new race to the
> bottom, the downwar
Title: RE: [PEN-L:31870] RE: RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: dismantling due process
> > I think these things go in cycles. Back when the
> > US faced superpower competition from the USSR, both
> > sides had to try to look good internationally,
> > causing a temporary upward harm
> I think these things go in cycles. Back when the
> US faced superpower competition from the USSR, both
> sides had to try to look good internationally,
> causing a temporary upward harmonization.
> JD
I've been waiting for years to hear Jim Devine agree with me that the Soviet
Union was a Good
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