Re: Re: RE: Wage setting

2000-08-15 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
Subject: [PEN-L:614] Re: RE: Wage setting Ehrlich is not all bad. See Ehrlich, Paul R. and Anne H. Ehrlich. 1996. Betrayal of Science and Reason: How Anti-environmental Rhetoric Threatens Our Future (Washington, D.C.: Island Press). Lisa Ian Murray wrote: mbs: Ehrlich is not a credible person

RE: Re: Re: RE: Wage setting

2000-08-15 Thread Max Sawicky
Welcome back, JBR. Didn't Ehrlich say we'd all be long dead by now? max . . . His _The Population Bomb_ of about 30 years ago also looks rather overdone at this point. . . .

Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Wage setting

2000-08-15 Thread J. Barkley Rosser, Jr.
Subject: [PEN-L:636] RE: Re: Re: RE: Wage setting Welcome back, JBR. Didn't Ehrlich say we'd all be long dead by now? max . . . His _The Population Bomb_ of about 30 years ago also looks rather overdone at this point. . . .

Re: RE: Re: Re: RE: Wage setting

2000-08-15 Thread Brad DeLong
Welcome back, JBR. Didn't Ehrlich say we'd all be long dead by now? max Just everyone in India, China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Indonesia... Brad DeLong

Re: RE: Wage setting (was 'Nader Demands Banning,Pulping of Harry Potter')

2000-08-14 Thread Carrol Cox
Max Sawicky wrote: Evidence we don't need no stinkin evidence . . . On the theory side, the simple idea that if a person with given skills can suitably perform the duties of an auto worker or sandwich man, there is some pressure on employers to offer more similar wages than otherwise

RE: Re: RE: Wage setting (was 'Nader Demands Banning,Pulping of Harry Potter')

2000-08-14 Thread Max Sawicky
CC: . . . Given any collection of quantities (a, b, c, d . . .) it is a tautology that one can equate any one of them with unity, then express each quantity in terms of the selected one. Hence one could, for example, take the average wage of bank window clerks as unity and express every other

RE: RE: Wage setting

2000-08-14 Thread Max Sawicky
You forget I'm resting here on my molehill (Mill-hill?), overlooking the plains of the imbecile flatness of the present bourgeousie, reveling in my ascendency over the rising tide of sophism and syncophancy (present company excluded), content in my shallow syncretic scrivening. I'm counting

RE: RE: Wage setting

2000-08-14 Thread Max Sawicky
Slightly more seriously . . . Ian said: Um, given the propensity of capitalists to displace manufacturing jobs with technology, conjoined with the fact that the energy/material inputs per unit of tool Z or good X must fall by at least a factor of ten over the next 60 years or so just in order to

RE: RE: Wage setting

2000-08-14 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
mbs: Maybe, maybe not. If I'm in Guatemala and life is better in the U.S., a given improvement in my life here does not necessarily deter me from seeking to migrate. It may in fact give me more means to do so. == agreed given the individualism of your response, but if there is a net increase

RE: RE: RE: Wage setting

2000-08-14 Thread Max Sawicky
I can send you chapter 6 of Paul Ekins "Economic Growth and Environmental Sustainability: The Prospects for Green Growth if you like. The numbers ain't pretty and are based on some algorithms cooked up by that strange duo [well one of them anyway] Barry Commoner/Paul Ehrlich. Ian Ehrlich is

RE: RE: Wage setting (was 'Nader Demands Banning, Pulping of Harry Potter')

2000-08-14 Thread Adam . Stokes
OK, I am a labour economist (out of practise mind you, but one none the less). The relevance of the argument depends greatly upon the institutional setting of the labour market(s). Some industries have equality in bargaining power because of unions or because individuals skills are highly

Re: RE: Wage setting

2000-08-14 Thread Michael Perelman
Ehrlich is not all bad. See Ehrlich, Paul R. and Anne H. Ehrlich. 1996. Betrayal of Science and Reason: How Anti-environmental Rhetoric Threatens Our Future (Washington, D.C.: Island Press). Lisa Ian Murray wrote: mbs: Ehrlich is not a credible person to me. Agreed; butterflies he knows,