Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: "Transformation problem" [was US Consumer Confidence...]

2001-04-04 Thread ALI KADRI
Isn't there a transformation problem between ordinal utility and prices in the derivation of prices cum demand. By this I do not mean the failure of transitivity or the eminent voting paradox problem, I mean the sloppy transformation of utils into prices which cannot be done, sui generis, withou

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: "Transformation problem" [was US Consumer Confidence...]

2001-04-03 Thread ALI KADRI
This is not to reject it, that is partly what I do to make a living, but to see its shortcoming. --- Jim Devine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Although I think that the main issues of the > so-called "transformation > problem" are not mathematical and the "problem" > should be renamed as the > "d

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: "Transformation problem" [was US Consumer Confidence...]

2001-04-02 Thread Jim Devine
Although I think that the main issues of the so-called "transformation problem" are not mathematical and the "problem" should be renamed as the "disaggregation problem," I think it's a mistake to totally reject math or even equilibrium conceptions. At 01:52 AM 4/2/01 -0700, you wrote: >IN AN

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: "Transformation problem" [was US Consumer Confidence...]

2001-04-02 Thread Forstater, Mathew
Shaikh uses math, econometrics, simulations, etc. But his points in such papers as "The Humbug Production Function," "The Poverty of Algebra," and the papers on the transformation problem are well to be considered: we must not confuse the laws of math or statistics with the laws of economics; math

Re: Re: Re: Re: "Transformation problem" [was US Consumer Confidence...]

2001-04-02 Thread ALI KADRI
IN AN ARTICLE ENTITLED "Geometry and experience" by Albert Einstein, on the relevance of mathematics he says "as far as mathematics corresponds to experience it is not certain, and as far as mathematics is certain it does not correspond to experience". Of the many misunderstandings of Marx, there

RE: Re: Re: "Transformation problem" [was US Consumer Confidence...]

2001-03-30 Thread Forstater, Mathew
I haven't been following this thread (multiple apologies), but what was wrong with Shaikh's solution? He offers a critique of the Bortkiewicz procedure and proposes a method of transformation which reconciles the contradiction (of Bortkiewicz/Sweezy, where the aggregate equalities assumed by Marx