Allen Ginsberg, Berkeley, January 17, 1956
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From: "Max Sawicky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 9:23 AM
Subject: [PEN-L:15466] RE: Re: The US Dollar (spend it fast as you can)
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As we have had most graphically demonstrated over the past two decades,
economic growth is not a means to enable the nations to afford better
housing, social programs and a more equitable distribution of income.
Economic growth is an ideological program offered as a substitute for
democracy,
G'day Seth, Tom and Mark,
> Tom Walker wrote regarding the false hope of re-starting economic
> growth:
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> Difficult to sell to the mainstream?
>
> Tom, do you mean selling the "growth is the problem, not the solution
> to what ails us" message to the news media or to the general >
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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>Sounds like a great diss. Did you ever publish an article summarizing it?
>If not, what school did you do it at?
Thanks, Michael. Unfortunately I did not.
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>> The official dollar role has been over since 1973. The US has run
>> current account deficit in every sin
At 02:24 PM 7/19/01 -0700, you wrote:
>The premise only supports the conclusion on the condition that hegemony is a
>zero-sum game. US drops ball; someone else picks it up. Uh-uh. Much more
>dangerous possibilities have presented in the past, such as during roughly
>the first half of the last cent
Yoshie writes:
>There's nothing on the political horizon to replace US hegemony --
>therefore Ellen's dissertation on dollarization holds up, I think, despite
>the alarms sounded by Wynne Godley who writes as if the USA had already
>entered into the same twilight of the empire that the UK had e
I doubt that the majority of Mexican residents & Mexican-Americans in
the USA are against trade with, investment in, & immigration from
Mexico. . . . Yoshie
Neither am I.
mbs
Oy vey indeed. Reading Rakesh makes me forget
what I actually said about Lind. I'm sure I
didn't say he was my leader.
I'm about 2/3rds thru The Next American Nation.
I've said the analysis of race and class history
in the book is very persuasive. It's good
populism. I'm on his elaboration an
I'm thinking about how to get from here to there,
and Yoshie is talking about getting from there
to here.
mbs
Yoshie is thinking long-term, while it seems that Max is thinking
short-term . . .
If protecting union jobs is the only point, anti-immigrant &
pro-protectionist nativism is patently pointless. New immigrant
workers are more pro-union than native-born workers -- hence the
AFL-CIO's new stance. To survive, organized labor has to sign up as
many as it can, native or immigran
At 02:05 PM 7/19/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Jim Devine says:
>
>>Michael wrote:
>>>It may be that intellectual property laws may be the most effective form
>>>of protectionism devised so far.
>>
>>except that it's not the kind of thing that's called "protectionism." It
>>protects individual corporatio
>If protecting union jobs is the only point, anti-immigrant &
>pro-protectionist nativism is patently pointless. New immigrant workers
>are more pro-union than native-born workers -- hence the AFL-CIO's new
>stance. To survive, organized labor has to sign up as many as it can,
>native or im
Under this form of class solidarity, there would be
no trade unions worthy of the name.
Real class solidarity means you protect union jobs.
If you aren't in a union, you protect them towards
the day when you can be in one, which protecting
furthers.
In a strike situation, calling for all to be e
on the basis of its alleged symbolic
value-particularly when that symbolism is hardly evident to anyone but
yourself.
Eric Alterman is a Nation columnist and author of Sound and Fury: The Making
of the Punditocracy, Who Speaks for America?: Why Democracy Matters in
Foreign Policy, and It Ain't No
>>Lind is not a nativist. He is a liberal
>>nationalist. He may be a Listian, but
>>to me that is not necessarily a Bad Thing.
>>The idea that he is a right-wing plant is
>>hallucinatory.
>>
>>mbs
While what Pugliese downloaded includes reasonable criticisms of a
neo bracero program, it soon b
Lind is not a nativist. He is a liberal
nationalist. He may be a Listian, but
to me that is not necessarily a Bad Thing.
The idea that he is a right-wing plant is
hallucinatory.
mbs
. . . Michael told me not to insult anyone, so I will hold back my comments
on the neo-nativist and self-procla
Michael wrote:
>It may be that intellectual property laws may be the most effective form
>of protectionism devised so far.
except that it's not the kind of thing that's called "protectionism." It
protects individual corporations or other property-holders, not the
domestic markets of countries.
>Rakesh Narpat Bhandari wrote,
>
>>And the size of the CAD (and trade deficit) is not correlated with
>>the value of the dollar; if it were there would be some reason to
>>expect Tom W's scenario of an imminent mass dumping of dollars. Why
>>does there seem to be no correlation? Ellen's analysis
Michael Lind (The Next American Nation) makes the point
that patents, IP, and professional licensure (i.e.,
tenure!) are the upper-class ("white overclass") variant
of protectionism.
Consistent free-traders should be willing to do away
with those barriers to trade as well. How do laissez
faire e
It may be that intellectual property laws may be the most effective form
of protectionism devised so far.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Actually, I don't overlook this. In fact I wrote my dissertation on
>> this and looked into the role of historical "inertia" quite closely
>> and it doesn't hold up.
>
>Sounds like a great diss. Did you ever publish an article summarizing it?
>If not, what school did you do it at?
>
>> Th
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