Re: Re: Re: RE: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

2001-07-18 Thread Rakesh Narpat Bhandari
Even so, please, I am trying to avoid the aggressive sort of note that you posted here. Please cool it. I see aggression in what Spivak once called in a moment of clarity sanctioned ignorance, i.e., what can be safely ignored. Note Max's refusal to reply to Jain Carowan's well reasoned

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

2001-07-18 Thread Michael Perelman
Rakesh, you are welcome to argue against those who fight against sweatshops, but the personal attacks cannot go on here. Your long attack on Lou is double irrelevant since he is no longer on the list. I learnt from your earlier attacks on sweatshops. I believe that Doug also said on LBO that

RE: Re: RE: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

2001-07-18 Thread Max Sawicky
Now I'm leaving PEN-L. I don't get along with Rakesh, who has just arrived, but how do we know it's really Rakesh and not some imposter whose real name is Hyman Blumenstock or Tachion Babushka? Max, why do you find so called ethnic names funny? Are you one of those self-hating ones? Look, I

RE: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

2001-07-18 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/18/01 12:13AM Hey Leo, Your departure is PEN-L's loss, not yours. ( CB: Yea, without struggle there is no progress, and Leo has that at the bottom of all his posts. Plus, he's a real anti- you know what, so we pro's can really struggle with such anti, causing

Re: RE: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

2001-07-18 Thread Michael Perelman
Charles, please lay off Leo. On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 10:49:52AM -0400, Charles Brown wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/18/01 12:13AM Hey Leo, Your departure is PEN-L's loss, not yours. ( CB: Yea, without struggle there is no progress, and Leo has that at the bottom of all his

Re: RE: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

2001-07-18 Thread Charles Brown
OK [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/18/01 11:09AM Charles, please lay off Leo. On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 10:49:52AM -0400, Charles Brown wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/18/01 12:13AM Hey Leo, Your departure is PEN-L's loss, not yours. ( CB: Yea, without struggle there is no progress,

Re: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

2001-07-17 Thread Stephen E Philion
As far as Michael and evenhandedness as a moderator, I disagree. I expect evenhandedeness from him because there is not one of us on this list who has not received a warning from him from time to time to cool it and he does a bang-up job as a moderator of this list. How he maintains this list

Re: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

2001-07-17 Thread Frederick Guy
I will very much miss Leo's contributions to this list. Fred __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

Re: Re: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

2001-07-17 Thread Nathan Newman
9:08 PM Subject: [PEN-L:15252] Re: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L As far as Michael and evenhandedness as a moderator, I disagree. I expect evenhandedeness from him because there is not one of us on this list who has not received a warning from him from time to time to cool it and he does a bang-up job

Re: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

2001-07-17 Thread Michael Perelman
I am sorry to see Leo leave. He is very smart. On LBO, he did a devastating job on an NBER paper on education. I thought that calling people on the list, Stalinist, was over the top. I asked him to stop and he didn't. He is correct that Charles jumped in after I asked for a halt.

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2001-07-17 Thread Michael Pugliese
And Leo was very effective in reply to James Heartfield on Rwanda on lbo-talk. Michael Pugliese - Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 8:10 PM Subject: [PEN-L:15261] Re: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

RE: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

2001-07-17 Thread Max Sawicky
Hey Leo, Your departure is PEN-L's loss, not yours. LBO is more fun anyway. PEN-L tries to be serious and promote civility, but the results for civility are uneven and the seriousness stifles my matchless sense of humor. Plus it only encourages Devine. Calling someone a stalinist is hardly

Re: RE: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

2001-07-17 Thread Michael Pugliese
And an ice-pick in every trot Ciao, Thomas - Original Message - From: Max Sawicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 9:13 PM Subject: [PEN-L:15268] RE: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L Hey Leo, Your

Re: RE: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

2001-07-17 Thread Rakesh Narpat Bhandari
I don't get along with Rakesh, who has just arrived, but how do we know it's really Rakesh and not some imposter whose real name is Hyman Blumenstock or Tachion Babushka? Max, why do you find so called ethnic names funny? Are you one of those self-hating ones? Look, I am sure you are a good

Re: Re: RE: Why I Am Leaving PEN-L

2001-07-17 Thread Michael Perelman
Max was wrong to go about tweaking people this way. His note first appeared on LBO and then only later came over here to pen-l. Even so, please, I am trying to avoid the aggressive sort of note that you posted here. Please cool it. On Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 09:57:34PM -0700, Rakesh Narpat