Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-06 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/05/00 09:59PM Looking from the outside, whatever the cost to Americans, getting rid of Madeline Albright has got to be a welfare gain to the rest of the world. It is surely worth 4 years of Bush to get rid of that person before she brings more disaster on the rest

Re: Re: Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-05 Thread Doug Henwood
Nathan Newman wrote: When folks spend more time criticizing the Dems than talking about the outrages of the GOP, you are choosing sides and the wrong one. I'll be very interested to see how much an issue of this the Dems make going forward, in future elections. Gore sent Jesse Jackson home

Re: Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-05 Thread Nathan Newman
- Original Message - From: "Doug Henwood" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nathan Newman wrote: When folks spend more time criticizing the Dems than talking about the outrages of the GOP, you are choosing sides and the wrong one. -I'll be very interested to see how much an issue of this the Dems

Re: Re: Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-05 Thread phillp2
Nathan, Looking from the outside, whatever the cost to Americans, getting rid of Madeline Albright has got to be a welfare gain to the rest of the world. It is surely worth 4 years of Bush to get rid of that person before she brings more disaster on the rest of the world. Paul Phillips,

Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-04 Thread Keaney Michael
Penners Gerard Baker's column in the 30 November issue of the Financial Times makes a number of salient points, and highlights the potential racial blind spot of the Gore campaign in the process. Baker: "Take the Republicans' sudden affection for the federal courts. Tomorrow the US Supreme

Re: Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-04 Thread Nathan Newman
- Original Message - From: "Keaney Michael" [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a previous post it was mentioned that the Florida law barring ex-felons from voting was passed in 1868! Where were the Florida Democrats, and especially the civil rights-minded Florida Democrats, prior to this particular

RE: Re: Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-04 Thread Max Sawicky
NOBODY HERE HAS EXPRESSED OPPOSITION TO THE CAMPAIGN TO GET THE VOTES OF MINORITIES COUNTED. Pointing out democratic hypocrisy and opportunism is a different matter. So is the 'moral equivalence' issue. For all practical purposes, there is moral equivalence. Virtue and vice are proportionally

Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-04 Thread Keaney Michael
Nathan wrote: Where were the Democrats? In a lot of states working to end this disenfranchisement. Since the problem of disenfranchisement got a lot of play due to research reports by the Sentencing Project, there has been a lot of mobilization on this issue. Legislation has been proposed in

Re: Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-04 Thread Nathan Newman
- Original Message - From: "Max Sawicky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOBODY HERE HAS EXPRESSED OPPOSITION TO THE CAMPAIGN TO GET THE VOTES OF MINORITIES COUNTED. Pointing out democratic hypocrisy and opportunism is a different matter. So is the 'moral equivalence' issue. Excuse me, Max- the

Re: Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-04 Thread Carrol Cox
Keaney Michael wrote: Nathan wrote: MK: I haven't and don't. With apologies to my elders and betters I would much rather have LBJ or HHH than WJC in the White House if only because they Committing genocide abroad is perfectly forgiveable in a U.S. president as long as he allegedly does

Re: Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-04 Thread Nathan Newman
- Original Message - From: "Keaney Michael" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nathan wrote: Where were the Democrats? In a lot of states working to end this disenfranchisement. = -MK: Well and good. How supportive has state and national Democratic Party -leadership been in this regard? How

Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-04 Thread Keaney Michael
Oh dear, I forgot. No, not about Vietnam, but about Carrol's inevitable sally against me and LBJ. Like I excuse Vietnam, or any act of U.S. imperialism. One of the most sickening sights of recent times was watching Clinton, in the middle of all this Florida mess no less, lecturing the Vietnamese

Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-04 Thread Keaney Michael
Nathan, quoting Max: NOBODY HERE HAS EXPRESSED OPPOSITION TO THE CAMPAIGN TO GET THE VOTES OF MINORITIES COUNTED. Pointing out democratic hypocrisy and opportunism is a different matter. So is the 'moral equivalence' issue. Excuse me, Max- the post I quoted said "It is incumbent upon Gore

Re: Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-02 Thread Charles Brown
This is a comment by Gerald Horne. Charles B. ((( Certainly, Jesse, et.al., are Dems but, as I'm sure you know, the leadership of this party rests with Gore, Ed Rendell (former Mayor of Philadelphia), and--ultimately--a wing of capital heavily concentrated in capital intensive (as

Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-01 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/01/00 01:22PM CB: How is Nader more than a left Democrat ? Politically, he is no different than a left Democrat. For that matter, he couldn't hold a candle to Henry Gonzalez. The importance of Nader, however, is his independence. If we are going to make genuine progress

RE: RE: FW: Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-01 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/01/00 12:13PM Beal wants RN to tail the Democrats, who get no criticism in this column, . . . *** This Message Is From: Fran Beal [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: RE: RE: FW: Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-01 Thread Max Sawicky
I think that's unfair. For this election, near unanimous black support for Gore was probably pre-ordained. If it wasn't, we could have expected some black independent protest candidacy. A pragmatic, tactical decision to back Gore, while defensible in and of itself, is not evidence of any

Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-01 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/01/00 04:18PM I think that's unfair. For this election, near unanimous black support for Gore was probably pre-ordained. If it wasn't, we could have expected some black independent protest candidacy. A pragmatic, tactical decision to back Gore, while defensible in and

RE: RE: RE: FW: Racial Blind Spot Continues toAfflictGreens

2000-12-01 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
It also seems inconsistent, in light of your defense of the white radicals in Seattle. Their profile on race issues was no better than Nader's. Of course, they didn't go so far as to suggest taking a vote away from Gore and giving it to Nader. All they did was block streets and break windows.