Julio wrote:
Marx praised political economists who, like Ricardo, pinned down the
fundamental dynamic thrust of capitalist production (M-C-M' proper) and
viewed its main sources of trouble as arising from the internal process
itself in the form of a tendential decline in profitability and,
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Marx praised Ricardo for seeing how capitalism is expansionist (M - C -
M'). But the latter, unlike Marx, saw the problem -- including the falling
rate of profit -- as arising due to external processes (scarcity of land
raw materials).
You are right about
Jim and Julio - In Theories of Surplus Value (Vol II), Marx criticizes
Ricardo exactly for NOT taking an M-C-M' view of things. Marx accuses
Ricardo of treating capitalism as a barter or simple commodity exchange
economy, and accepting uncritically Say's Law. No man produces, but
with a view to
At 04:41 PM 7/19/01 -0500, you wrote:
Jim and Julio - In Theories of Surplus Value (Vol II), Marx criticizes
Ricardo exactly for NOT taking an M-C-M' view of things. Marx accuses
Ricardo of treating capitalism as a barter or simple commodity exchange
economy, and accepting uncritically Say's
Sam Pawlett [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Because it isn't happening [as they grow, poor countries are not showing
will or mechanisms to improve the enviroment]. The most industrialized of
the poor
countries (S.Korea, Mexico, Brazil, Indonesia) are environmental
disasters. I've seen it first hand. There
Re:Geoffrey Kay
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The Nancy Stukey paper seems like another statement of the environmental
Kuznets curve. Alan Krueger once presented this idea to the URPE meetings
at the economics meetings. It was far from convincing.
Some types of polluting behavior will indeed by cut back -- such as
burning firewood for
Julio wrote to Sam:
Whoa, a real Kautskyite. But no, the rate of exploitation rises as
productivity (surplus value)
increases. For example, auto workers in Mexico work at close to the same
level of productivity as Canadians or Americans but are only paid a
fraction. They are more exploited and
Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The Nancy Stukey paper seems like another statement of the environmental
Kuznets curve. Alan Krueger once presented this idea to the URPE meetings
at the economics meetings. It was far from convincing.
Some types of polluting behavior will indeed by cut
the env. kuz stuff--is it
'dont worry about the env just grow?
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From: Julio Huato
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Sent: 7/15/01 7:53 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:15181] Re: Re: Re: Imperialism and Environment
Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The Nancy Stukey paper seems like another
Julio, I do not have any absolute proof, but I feel fairly confident that
most of the pollution caused by consumption in the United States occurs
offshore. The extractive industries are terribly destructive. Toxic
wastes are shipped abroad. Ugly industries, such as the recycling of lead
Yoshie:
The essence of imperialism may be best understood as what is
necessary to ensure the global reproduction of social relations of
capitalism, for which a variety of means -- including embargoes --
are used, depending on what changing circumstances demand. [Etc.]
I find this posting very
Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Julio, I do not have any absolute proof, but I feel fairly confident that
most of the pollution caused by consumption in the United States occurs
offshore. The extractive industries are terribly destructive. Toxic
wastes are shipped abroad. Ugly industries,
Yoshie Furuhashi:
Moreover, since environmental regulations are local, national, at
most regional (e.g., EU) affairs, capital can always displace
condense environmental harms onto the politico-economically weakest
links, so long as a multitude of political entities are competing
with one
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