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2000-07-06 Thread Mine Aysen Doyran
Doyran wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:25:08 -0400 > > From: Mine Aysen Doyran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [PEN-L:21334] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Crisis of capitalism > > > &

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2000-07-06 Thread Anthony DCosta
treet Tacoma, WA 98402, USA xxx On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Mine Aysen Doyran wrote: > Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:25:08 -0400 > From: Mine Aysen Doyran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEN-

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Crisis of capitalism

2000-07-06 Thread Anthony DCosta
, USA xxx On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Doug Henwood wrote: > Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:55:07 -0400 > From: Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [PEN-L:21331] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Crisis of capit

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2000-07-06 Thread Mine Aysen Doyran
Incorrect charecterization. In fact, world system people are ridiculed by closet neo-classical economists who, for instance, argue that third world societies have remained underdeveloped, and will remain so, not because they were colonized by the West, but because they were _inherently_ backward

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Crisis of capitalism

2000-07-06 Thread Doug Henwood
Anthony D'Costa wrote: >labor-intensive activities are low wage by definition Software writing? Bond trading? Psychotherapy? Fine woodworking? Doug

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2000-07-06 Thread Anthony D'Costa
These sweat shop studies (particularly apparel, footwear, and some electronic assembly) are favorites of world-system type analysts. It is self-selective since labor-intensive activities are low wage by definition and hence these studies seem to support their "theoretical" position. But what I a

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Crisis of capitalism

2000-07-05 Thread Stephen E Philion
We might also add that maple leaves are green. Steve > Mine Aysen Doyran wrote: > > >Edna Bonacich and Richard P. Appelbaum, Behind the Label: Inequality > >in the Los > >Angeles Apparel Industry. Berkeley: University of California Press, 2000 > >(paperback 0-520-22506-6; $19.95). > > > >"In a

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Crisis of capitalism

2000-07-05 Thread Mine Aysen Doyran
Doug Henwood wrote: > >Mine Aysen Doyran wrote: > > >Doug Henwood wrote, regarding the increasing prosperity of the US economy: > > > >> > >> >Profits are up, real wages are up, and > >> >employment is up by over 18 million. Bankrupticies are even edging > >> >down - see the Chicago Merc's pa

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Crisis of capitalism

2000-07-05 Thread Doug Henwood
Mine Aysen Doyran wrote: >Doug Henwood wrote, regarding the increasing prosperity of the US economy: > >> >> >Profits are up, real wages are up, and >> >employment is up by over 18 million. Bankrupticies are even edging >> >down - see the Chicago Merc's page for the latest counts >> >http://w

Re: Re: Re: Re: Crisis of capitalism

2000-07-05 Thread Mine Aysen Doyran
Doug Henwood wrote, regarding the increasing prosperity of the US economy: > > >Profits are up, real wages are up, and > >employment is up by over 18 million. Bankrupticies are even edging > >down - see the Chicago Merc's page for the latest counts > >http://www.cme.com/cgi-bin/qbidata.cgi>. > >

Re: Re: Re: Crisis of capitalism

2000-07-05 Thread Doug Henwood
Mine Aysen Doyran wrote: >People who don't want to see the *crisis* of capitalism are by definition >unwilling to see the social and human *costs* of capitalism. Not at all. By your definition, but not mine. In fact, I think people who are rightly appalled by the social and ecological consequen

Re: Re: Crisis of capitalism

2000-07-04 Thread Mine Aysen Doyran
>Doug Henwood wrote: > >Hmm, guess things didn't quite work out as predicted. Maybe next year. > >Doug People who don't want to see the *crisis* of capitalism are by definition unwilling to see the social and human *costs* of capitalism. They want to see capitalism _saved_ not _abolished_. bt

Re: Crisis of capitalism

2000-07-04 Thread Doug Henwood
Mine Aysen Doyran quoted: >ssue 223 of SOCIALIST REVIEW Published October 1998 Copyright © >Socialist Review > >The collapse of capitalism Hmm, guess things didn't quite work out as predicted. Maybe next year. >Long term, the rates of profit have been falling since t