Re: RE: Re: RE: More on A16 fire hazard

2000-04-16 Thread Jim Devine
At 11:34 AM 04/16/2000 -0400, you wrote: "Max B. Sawicky" wrote: . . . Protesters' Headquarters Raided, Shut Down Incredible. What's incredible about it? It seems quite ordinary to me -- but I suppose it depends on one's assumptions about capitalist democracy. Carrol I think that it's

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: More on A16 fire hazard

2000-04-16 Thread Max B. Sawicky
O.K. This seems right. My question: Does the novelty (or at leas relative novelty) of the reaction reflect someone's deliberate estimation of the threat, or merely a more-or- less run of the mill police over-reaction? . . . [mbs] It's an over-reaction if you are interested in upholding the law,

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: More on A16 fire hazard

2000-04-16 Thread M A Jones
- Original Message - From: "Jim Devine" [*] In CAPITAL, Marx goes a long distance with the contrast between "what's good according to capitalist standards" (trading at value, equal exchange) and how the system works in practice (exploitation in production). Surely Marx's entire

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: More on A16 fire hazard (fwd)

2000-04-16 Thread md7148
there is no "contrast" between the real (exploitation) and the moral (equal exchange) in Capital. It is capitalism, not Marx, that creates the contrast, to make us believe free market distributes fairly. Marx objectively reads capitalism as the way it is.. Mine [*] In CAPITAL, Marx goes a

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: More on A16 fire hazard

2000-04-16 Thread Jim Devine
"At 07:13 PM 04/16/2000 +0100, you wrote: - Original Message - From: "Jim Devine" [*] In CAPITAL, Marx goes a long distance with the contrast between "what's good according to capitalist standards" (trading at value, equal exchange) and how the system works in practice

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: More on A16 fire hazard

2000-04-16 Thread M A Jones
- Original Message - From: "Jim Devine" In volume III, as he turns to the issue of how competition works and how the participants perceive the system and act on those perceptions, he drops the assumption that commodities trade at value (so that there is unequal exchange, the