Doyle wrote: >The selected quotes from Pen-lers below the signature on this
reply (source from Jim Devine -Spinoza, and Yoshie Furuhashi - Hobbes) are
representative of the early period in philosophy of "rationalist" rejection
of emotions as appropriate to knowledge production. I would like to
s Dictionary of Political
Economy (1894)
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From: "Michael Perelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:02 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:13384] Re: Re: Re: Re: "Spinoza was a communist thinker long
before Marx"
>* Indeed, those who have experienced the fickleness of the masses
>are almost reduced to despair; for the masses are governed solely by their
>emotions, not by reason; they rush wildly into everything, and are readily
>corrupted either by avarice or by luxurious living. Every single ma
Althusser was quite fond of Spinoza. He attributed to Spinoza the idea which
he [Althusser] called the "subject-less process," but which others might call
structuralism.
I would tend to agree with Jim: Spinoza ain't such a bad guy to have as a
political progenitor.
Leo Casey
United Federatio
This discussion again is getting into personalities. There are few
honorable professions today. Doctors minimize medical care. Regular
working class people end up building stuff that is used to exploit and
oppress others. We academics are all compromised in one sense or another.
All we can do
At 12:43 PM 6/15/01 -0700, you wrote:
>Justin wrote:
>>Politically, Spinoza was in the neighborhood of being a liberal,
>>advocated bourgeois rights, religious tolerance, some democracy--not the
>>way he'd put it. He is rather little studied in political philosophy, a
>>little more but not much
At 07:43 PM 6/15/01 +, you wrote:
>>He was a good guy. He made the wise decision to take up lens grinding
>>instead of academia. That way he would have the freedom to make his points
>>without being intellectually compromised.
>
>There was no "academia" in those days.
according to the DICTI
Justin wrote:
>Politically, Spinoza was in the neighborhood of being a liberal, advocated
>bourgeois rights, religious tolerance, some democracy--not the way he'd
>put it. He is rather little studied in political philosophy, a little more
>but not much in politicak theory, perhas because his po
>
>He was a good guy. He made the wise decision to take up lens grinding
>instead of academia. That way he would have the freedom to make his points
>without being intellectually compromised.
>
>
There was no "academia" in those days. The "schools" were of course
Catholic, closed to a heterodox
I wrote:
> >is it true that "Spinoza was a communist thinker long before Marx"? Why
> >not? After all, Plato advocated communism, at least for the elite
> >Guardians. It depends on how you define "communism." Plato was a top-down
> >(father knows best) type communist. And not all communists are ad
Politically, Spinoza was in the neighborhood of being a liberal, advocated
bourgeois rights, religious tolerance, some democracy--not the way he'd put
it. He is rather little studied in political philosophy, a little more but
not much in politicak theory, perhas because his political doctrines
I probably know less about Spinoza that Jim, but I do know that Marx
thought highly of them.
On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 11:47:20AM -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
> is it true that "Spinoza was a communist thinker long before Marx"? Why
> not? After all, Plato advocated communism, at least for the elite
Jim Devine wrote:
>is it true that "Spinoza was a communist thinker long before Marx"? Why
>not? After all, Plato advocated communism, at least for the elite
>Guardians. It depends on how you define "communism." Plato was a top-down
>(father knows best) type communist. And not all communists ar
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