Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who's in the working class?

2001-06-04 Thread Margaret Coleman
Carrol Cox says, amongst other things, Political practice, not theoretical definitions, will carve out those workers who "count" and those who don't. This is a whole other discussion -- as you know from years of practice yourself! maggie Carrol Cox wrote: > Margaret Coleman wrote: > > > > Hi Jim

Re: Re: who's in the working class?

2001-06-03 Thread Jim Devine
At 09:48 PM 06/03/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Jim, I see there is more to your definition than I responded to in the >earlier message One problem I have with defining working class is the >median income you mention as a measure. Alot of union workers, especially >blue collar skilled workers,

Re: Re: Re: Re: who's in the working class?

2001-06-03 Thread Carrol Cox
Margaret Coleman wrote: > > Hi Jim and max (mad or not), I agree with this formula as far as it goes, > but I think this is a little too vague. Not having to work means one > thing if you own a modest home, put your kids in public school, pay taxes, > drive a moderately priced vehicle, et

Re: Re: Re: who's in the working class?

2001-06-03 Thread Margaret Coleman
Hi Jim and max (mad or not), I agree with this formula as far as it goes, but I think this is a little too vague. Not having to work means one thing if you own a modest home, put your kids in public school, pay taxes, drive a moderately priced vehicle, etc. The thing is, most people who hav

Re: RE: who's in the working class?

2001-06-03 Thread Margaret Coleman
I too have an unpublished manuscript -- I call it a novel. maggie coleman Max Sawicky wrote: > Awhile back, "Mad" Max Sawicky suggested a way to define the working class. > By bizarre coincidence -- since we _never_ agree on anything -- it roughly > coincided with my own workable definition. Of

Re: Re: who's in the working class?

2001-06-02 Thread Jim Devine
At 11:32 AM 06/02/2001 -0500, you wrote: >Jim Devine wrote: > > > > > > "to be a capitalist, one requires at a minimum enough income-producing > > property to allow leisure for the rest of one's life, long before > > retirement, while actually adding to one's wealth. > >A minor correction. Inste