Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-16 Thread Jim Devine
At 05:15 PM 10/15/00 -0400, Doug wrote: >Coordinated interest rate cuts as a reaction to a panic would leave >cross-national differences unchanged, so the currency impact could be >minimized. And in a panic, CBers and traders would forget about inflation >and worry about keeping everything aflo

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-15 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: >If the Fed decides to pump up asset markets (with lower interest >rates), it not only encourages the dreaded inflation -- still a >major nightmare for the bankers and much of Wall Street, especially >with recent oil price-hikes -- but also spurs a steeper fall in the >doll

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-15 Thread Jim Devine
At 08:07 PM 10/14/2000 -0400, you wrote: >Jim Devine wrote: > >>notable is the absence of an international lender of the last resort, or >>even an international central banker concerned with the health of the >>world economy but without l-o-l-r facility. The IMF acts instead as a >>creditors' c

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-15 Thread Barnet Wagman
I wonder if a flight to liquidity is still on the table.  Are wealth holders willing to hold currency?  I tend to think not.  What do weatlth holders consider safe instruments these days?  (If I were a wealth holder, I'd be moving money into (internationally diversified) govt securities but of co

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-14 Thread Peter Dorman
I'm aware that "the rest of the world expands" is the preferred solution to the US current account deficit (and capital account bubble). Has anyone calculated the rate of expansion that would be required to do this, without drastic changes to the value of the dollar, given the US price and income

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-14 Thread Dennis Robert Redmond
On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Peter Dorman wrote: > secure; they were the targets of subsequent runs. Is there some way > to think about the pricking of the dollar bubble in the absence of > resurgent confidence in some other currency? Sure -- vigorous expansion in the EU and East Asia, which would pull

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-14 Thread Peter Dorman
This is true -- I really don't think we know anything that these folks don't (although we of course put different values on it and maybe weight the probabilities differently). Still, I'm not sure they would have the resources to stem a sudden run on the dollar under the current circumstances (whi

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-14 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: >notable is the absence of an international lender of the last >resort, or even an international central banker concerned with the >health of the world economy but without l-o-l-r facility. The IMF >acts instead as a creditors' cartel, so the closest to playing this >role is

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-14 Thread Jim Devine
At 04:44 PM 10/14/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Maybe, but there can also be a generalized flight to liquidity -- but what >does >that mean in today's global financial system? I'm thinking back (OK, >worst case >scenario) to the opening years of the great depression, when there was a >series of >run

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-14 Thread Peter Dorman
Barney, Maybe, but there can also be a generalized flight to liquidity -- but what does that mean in today's global financial system? I'm thinking back (OK, worst case scenario) to the opening years of the great depression, when there was a series of runs on national currencies. Currencies that

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-14 Thread Jim Devine
Barney wrote: >Rather than heading towards upwards or downward harmonization, perhaps we >are in a relatively stable regime, where (non-direct) foreign investment >transfers wealth to US asset holders, who then use that wealth to continue >consuming imports, thus sustaining foreign output and t

Re: Re: Re: Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-14 Thread Barnet Wagman
> though looking at the foreign-exchange value of the dollar is important, I > think that looking at aggregate demand is more important. There are two > polar alternatives: > > 1) the US trade deficit pulls up the rest of the world, allowing a > mutually-reinforcing demand-side boom amongst the ca

Re: Re: Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-13 Thread Jim Devine
Barney Wagman writes: >Higher energy prices hurt (or are perceived to hurt) Europe and Japan more >than the US, so oil prices aren't likely to have much effect on capital >flows. I suspect it will take a major expansion somewhere in the world >before things turn around. though looking at the

Re: Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-13 Thread Barnet Wagman
> As long as the dollar remains high, it indicates that the inflow of > external finance is continuing to sustain US consumption. When the dollar > drops (as it must, eventually), we are in a new era. I think Peter has it right. Until some other part of the world becomes more attractive to capi

RE: beginning of the end?

2000-10-13 Thread Max Sawicky
and a UE rate of 3.9 percent. Ai chihuahua. (yiddish for 'oy vey.') mbs Is the beginning of the end for the so-called boom? Doug usually has a skeptical response to such questions. But here goes: We are seeing a spike in energy prices, higher interest prices abroad, a momentary sign of in

Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-13 Thread Charles Brown
Doesn't Wallstreet have a bit of a cold ? CB >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/13/00 12:17PM >>> Is the beginning of the end for the so-called boom? Doug usually has a skeptical response to such questions. But here goes: We are seeing a spike in energy prices, higher interest prices abroad, a momentar

Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-13 Thread Peter Dorman
As one of the oracles-in-residence on this list, I say: follow the dollar. As long as the dollar remains high, it indicates that the inflow of external finance is continuing to sustain US consumption. When the dollar drops (as it must, eventually), we are in a new era. Like all oracles, I am giv

Re: beginning of the end?

2000-10-13 Thread Jim Devine
At 09:17 AM 10/13/00 -0700, you wrote: >Is the beginning of the end for the so-called boom? Doug usually has a >skeptical response to such questions. But here goes: We are seeing a >spike in energy prices, higher interest prices abroad, a momentary sign >of inflation, and a slowdown in employme