On Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 17:59:53 (-0800) Brad De Long writes:
>>
>> >>Brad, just a small favor: could you find us a quote directly from
Cumings's work where he claims "Syngman Rhee started the 1950-1953
Korean War"? I thought that he was much more circumspect than that.
>>>
>>
>In a message dated 00-02-23 19:23:56 EST, you write:
>
><< It's been a long time since I looked at Cumings and I can't say that I
> read it completely. But my impression was that he was arguing that there had
> been a civil war happening on the entire Korean peninsula in which there
> was a somew
> The beginning of the
>officially-designated "Korean War" was when the northern armies launched
>what would have been a successful offensive if not for US intervention. I
>think the point was that it really wasn't a matter of the north crossing
>international boundaries, since the boundaries hadn
>
> >>Brad, just a small favor: could you find us a quote directly from
>>>Cumings's work where he claims "Syngman Rhee started the 1950-1953
>>>Korean War"? I thought that he was much more circumspect than that.
>>
>>Hmmm... How about "The possibility that the South opened the fighting
>>on Ong
In a message dated 00-02-23 19:23:56 EST, you write:
<< It's been a long time since I looked at Cumings and I can't say that I
read
it completely. But my impression was that he was arguing that there had
been a civil war happening on the entire Korean peninsula in which there
was a somewha
> >>Brad, just a small favor: could you find us a quote directly from
> >>Cumings's work where he claims "Syngman Rhee started the 1950-1953
> >>Korean War"? I thought that he was much more circumspect than that.
>
> >Hmmm... How about "The possibility that the South opened the fighting
> >on On
On Wednesday, February 23, 2000 at 15:32:07 (-0800) Brad De Long writes:
>>On Monday, February 14, 2000 at 12:50:11 (-0800) Brad De Long writes:
CB: The U.S. imperialists carried out a war circa 1950 and still
occupy the Southern part of the country. The U.S. still has 30,000
troo
>On Monday, February 14, 2000 at 12:50:11 (-0800) Brad De Long writes:
>>>
>>>CB: The U.S. imperialists carried out a war circa 1950 and still
>>>occupy the Southern part of the country. The U.S. still has 30,000
>>>troops and nuclear weapons there.
>>
>>I thought that Bruce Cumings's claim that S
On Monday, February 14, 2000 at 12:50:11 (-0800) Brad De Long writes:
>>
>>CB: The U.S. imperialists carried out a war circa 1950 and still
>>occupy the Southern part of the country. The U.S. still has 30,000
>>troops and nuclear weapons there.
>
>I thought that Bruce Cumings's claim that South
>
>CB: The U.S. imperialists carried out a war circa 1950 and still
>occupy the Southern part of the country. The U.S. still has 30,000
>troops and nuclear weapons there.
I thought that Bruce Cumings's claim that South Korean dictator
Syngman Rhee started the 1950-1953 Korean War had collapsed
N. Korea is a very infertile place -- by nature. Montana could not
support a dense population either.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
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>[N. Korea's] people are eating tree bark, for God's sake.
didn't the also face extraordinarily bad weather and an embargo by the "West"?
>Is there any reason not to conclude that combining the delights of High
>Stalinism with those of hereditary monarchy is a really bad idea?
why not? "Star
>On Behalf Of Brad De Long
>
> I like political democracy rather more than the next guy/gal (on this
> list, at least). But it isn't the key to the riddle of history...
>
> http://www.nps.gov/malu/documents/jim_crow_laws.htm
Then again, it was democracy that passed the Civil Rights Acts after th
>Nathan writes:
>>Questions raised are whether there are ways to better encorporate such
>>qualitative measures into state planning. I would argue that without
>>democracy as an alternative "feedback" loop to the market, undemocratic
>>state planning must by nature ultimately fail.
>
>well phrase
>Nathan writes:
>>Questions raised are whether there are ways to better encorporate such
>>qualitative measures into state planning. I would argue that without
>>democracy as an alternative "feedback" loop to the market, undemocratic
>>state planning must by nature ultimately fail.
>
>well phrase
> >On Behalf Of Louis Proyect
>> These achievements were so remarkable that even Western
>> economists began to
>> speak of the "North Korean Miracle." In fact, according to the economist
>> Joan Robinson, writing in 1965, "All economic miracles of the
>> postwar world are put in the shade b
>On Behalf Of Michael Perelman
>
> Nathan, Bettleheim, some time ago, made the point that the
> urgency of war caused
> Lenin to establish systems of control much like those of the
> capitalists. I
> don't want to get into a Lenin vs. Trotsky, etc. line, but I think it is
> important to remember
Nathan, Bettleheim, some time ago, made the point that the urgency of war caused
Lenin to establish systems of control much like those of the capitalists. I
don't want to get into a Lenin vs. Trotsky, etc. line, but I think it is
important to remember the context.
Nathan Newman wrote:
> >On Beh
Nathan writes:
>Questions raised are whether there are ways to better encorporate such
>qualitative measures into state planning. I would argue that without
>democracy as an alternative "feedback" loop to the market, undemocratic
>state planning must by nature ultimately fail.
well phrased! BTW,
>On Behalf Of Louis Proyect
> These achievements were so remarkable that even Western
> economists began to
> speak of the "North Korean Miracle." In fact, according to the economist
> Joan Robinson, writing in 1965, "All economic miracles of the
> postwar world are put in the shade by these achi
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