Re: liberty

2001-09-08 Thread Tom Walker
Non-disposable time would be the amount of labour time socially necessary to produce goods sufficient for subsistence, reproduction of the working population and a reserve fund to replace worn out means of production. Tom Walker Bowen Island, BC 604 947 2213

Re: Re: liberty

2001-09-07 Thread Michael Perelman
In my Invention of Capitalism, I wrote: John Locke, often seen as a philosopher of liberty, called for the commencement of work at the ripe age of three (Cranston 1957, 425). Ian Murray wrote: > Locke's 'utopia' was a *3* hour > workdayIf I remember my source right it's in one of Richard > A

Re: liberty

2001-09-07 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Charles Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:14 PM Subject: [PEN-L:16854] liberty > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/05/01 08:24AM >>> > Michael Perelman asked, > > > What does liberty mean? > > According to the an

re: liberty

2001-09-05 Thread Tom Walker
Michael Perelman asked, > What does liberty mean? According to the anonymous author of the Source and Remedy of the National Difficulties, "wealth is liberty -- liberty to seek recreation -- liberty to enjoy life -- liberty to improve the mind: it is disposable time, and nothing more." So liber

Re: Re: liberty

2001-09-04 Thread Michael Perelman
Oh, no. That was Karl Marx, not Chico Marx. Jim Devine wrote: > sounds familiar. Cf. the following: > "The bourgeoisie ... has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and > in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that > single, unconscionable freedom — Free T

Re: Re: Re: Re: liberty

2001-09-04 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: "Andrew Hagen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 4:35 PM Subject: [PEN-L:16725] Re: Re: Re: liberty > On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:08:25 -0700, Ian Murray wrote: > >Well if some people want

Re: Re: Re: liberty

2001-09-04 Thread Andrew Hagen
On Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:08:25 -0700, Ian Murray wrote: >Well if some people want to criminalize behavior you and others think >should be relegated to the realm of liberty you've got a *huge* >problem. Yes, but that is a problem of whether the public power should recognize the activity as liberty, n

Re: liberty

2001-09-04 Thread Jim Devine
Michael Perelman writes: >What does liberty mean? My neighbor has the right to spray onto my >property -- his liberty. If a insect infestation threatens ag. interests, >the farmers can get the state to spray onto my property. Commercial >interests trump liberty every time. sounds familiar. Cf.

Re: liberty

2001-09-04 Thread Eugene Coyle
You are at liberty to move away. Exercise you choice!! Try the Sahara, they might not be spraying crops there. Gene Coyle Michael Perelman wrote: > What does liberty mean? My neighbor has the right to spray onto my > property -- his liberty. If a insect infestation threatens ag. interests,

[PEN-L:4841] Re: Liberty Lobby: NAFTA REPEAL: HR 499 INFO, Apr.24

1995-04-26 Thread Robert Naiman
I don't want to start a big discussion of this on PEN-L; but I do want to note that not everyone (e.g. me) agrees with the view that one cannot participate in a coalition or action if such a group as the Liberty Lobby is also a participant. I suspect that some people who hold such a view might n

[PEN-L:4839] Re: Liberty Lobby: NAFTA REPEAL: HR 499 INFO, Apr.24

1995-04-26 Thread Doug Henwood
At 3:47 PM 4/25/95, Jim Devine wrote: >I'm against NAFTA and all that, but isn't the Liberty Lobby a >bunch of right-wing (nativist or even anti-semitic) kooks? They call themselves "populist," but their guiding spirit is Willis Carto, the notorious Holocaust "revisionist" and anti-Semite. They

[PEN-L:4837] Re: Liberty Lobby: NAFTA REPEAL: HR 499 INFO, Apr.24

1995-04-26 Thread Dale Wharton
The good news about HR 499 is that Marcie Kaptur (D OH) is on the case. This woman is as forceful a critic of NAFTA as I've heard. A freelance named Scott McLemee wrote a long article on the Liberty Lobby for CAQ #50, Fall 1994: _Covert Action Quarterly_, since 1978. ISSN 0275-309X (University M

[PEN-L:4829] Re: Liberty Lobby: NAFTA REPEAL: HR 499 INFO, Apr.24

1995-04-25 Thread Jim Devine
I'm against NAFTA and all that, but isn't the Liberty Lobby a bunch of right-wing (nativist or even anti-semitic) kooks? in pen-l solidarity, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Econ. Dept., Loyola Marymount Univ., Los Angeles, CA 90045-2699 USA 310/338-2948 (daytime, during workwe