>'jacksonian democracy' and 'era of common man'...white male suffrage did
expand (only three southern states still required property-ownership in
aftermath)...of course, financial aristocracy controlled north and
slavocracy controlled south (jacksonian interests represented emergent
western capital
Schlessinger explicitly wrote to promote Jacksonian populism as an
alternative to communism.
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 05:31:48PM -0500, Michael Hoover wrote:
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/16/03 10:26 AM >>>
> The
> first Democratic Party president was Andrew Jackson who is represented
> in
> liberal h
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/16/03 10:26 AM >>>
The
first Democratic Party president was Andrew Jackson who is represented
in
liberal history books, such as those written by Arthur Schlesinger Jr.,
as
the leader of a kind of plebian revolution.
Louis Proyect
'jacksonian democracy' and 'era of common m
In a message dated 11/16/03 7:42:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, but isn't this independence most efficiently acheived by wresting the existing infrastructure from the hands of the ruling class. Since no third party has been widely successful in the last hundred or
Benjamin writes: >
But how does one get the ball rolling on the practical level? In the US the system is
set up to stifle any third party. The greens have gained a little ground, but for the
most part nobody pays attention to the small parties. I think a better solution would
be to infiltrate a
Louis:
> Wresting the existing infrastructure? To do this would require seizing the
> assets of Goldman-Sachs, Exxon, General Motors, etc. since this is
> ultimately what allows the two parties to rule this country.
>
And why not? They've got the guns on their side, so it'd be better to fight a
Benjamin:
Yes, but isn't this independence most efficiently acheived by wresting the
existing infrastructure from the hands of the ruling class. Since no third
party has been widely successful in the last hundred or so years, these
grass roots movements are in the end futile.
Wresting the existing
Louis Proyect wrote:
> The question is not coming up with "truly progressive" candidates. In many
> ways, Al Sharpton is to the left of Ralph Nader. The real issue is
> independence from the ruling class.
Yes, but isn't this independence most efficiently acheived by wresting the existing
infrast
excellent point.
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 02:55:53AM -0500, Kenneth Campbell wrote:
>
> More faith in people and less preaching to people would help.
>
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But how does one get the ball rolling on the practical level? In the US
the system is set up to stifle any third party. The greens have gained a
little ground, but for the most part nobody pays attention to the small
parties. I think a better solution would be to infiltrate a larger party.
Here in
> >The question is how to create a political party -- including but not at all
> limited to electoral vehicles -- that is truly an effective political
> expression of the already left-wing sentiments of American workers.
>
> That is just to say that party already exists, in the sense that the lead
>The question is how to create a political party -- including but not at all
limited to electoral vehicles -- that is truly an effective political
expression of the already left-wing sentiments of American workers.
That is just to say that party already exists, in the sense that the leaders
and me
At 2:55 AM -0500 11/16/03, Kenneth Campbell wrote:
If you want to see what people, currently, really think about power
and money, take a look at the jury awards given to humans against
corporations. Jury awards are HUGE. Usually shot down at the
non-public appellate level.
Also, the majority of Ame
I am just reading through this discussion.
This Julio Huato seems to have a grasp of strategy and tactics... But I
don't want to damn him with my praise.
Michael P. (the closet horsetrader) wrote:
> Julio is probably right, but think of how horrible
> this situation is.
Well... I'd say DON'T "t
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