Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Structural changes in Yugoslavia

2000-10-09 Thread Jim Devine
At 08:21 PM 10/8/00 -0400, you wrote: > >I'm sorry, but this use of the words "dialectical understanding" reminds me > >of a (poor) novel about the Spanish Civil War, in which a CP type uses the > >term "dialectics" to mean a double cross. > >Isn't that "Farewell to a Trotskyite"? no, it's a pot-

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Structural changes in Yugoslavia

2000-10-08 Thread Louis Proyect
Jim Devine: >I'm sorry, but this use of the words "dialectical understanding" reminds me >of a (poor) novel about the Spanish Civil War, in which a CP type uses the >term "dialectics" to mean a double cross. Isn't that "Farewell to a Trotskyite"? I believe this was discussed in Alan Wald's "Rev

Re: Structural changes in Yugoslavia

2000-10-08 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Jim D. wrote: >>It employes CIA analysts who seem remarkably successful at figuring >>out who is hostile to capitalist prerogatives. Milosevic was seen >>as interfering with the process at work in Eastern Europe, so he >>had to be eradicated. > >However, it's a mistake to fall for Mao's fallac

Re: Re: Re: Re: Structural changes in Yugoslavia

2000-10-08 Thread Jim Devine
I said: > >If by "communism," [Kostunica] means the state rule by a monopolistic > political party that uses "welfare state" programs to cement its > leadership and and state-owned property to feather its leaders' and their > friends' nests (sort of like the Mexican PRI in [its] heyday), I don'

Re: Re: Re: Structural changes in Yugoslavia

2000-10-08 Thread Louis Proyect
Jim Devine: >If by "communism," K means the state rule by a >monopolistic political party that uses "welfare state" programs to cement >its leadership and and state-owned property to feather its leaders' and >their friends' nests (sort of like the Mexican PRI in his heyday), I don't >think the

Re: Re: Structural changes in Yugoslavia

2000-10-08 Thread Jim Devine
>Kostunica: >"Communism is falling. It is just a matter of a few hours." not only did communism not prevail in Serbia (as Chris B. notes), but it seems to me that K is highly optimistic. (Of course, it's probably simply excessive rhetoric in the heat of the moment, with no real meaning, but

Re: Re: Re: Structural changes in Yugoslavia

2000-10-08 Thread Louis Proyect
Burford: >What is Kostunica likely to mean by "communism"? The same thing that Bill Clinton, the CIA and the NY Times mean. Louis Proyect Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org/

Re: Re: Structural changes in Yugoslavia

2000-10-08 Thread Chris Burford
At 10:20 08/10/00 -0400, you wrote: >Burford: > >The changes in the leadership of economic institutions may suggest that in > >class terms there was a revolt by a coalition of class forces, (certainly > >fostered by the West) against a transitional form of oligarch capitalism > >linked with the SP

Re: Structural changes in Yugoslavia

2000-10-08 Thread Louis Proyect
Burford: >The changes in the leadership of economic institutions may suggest that in >class terms there was a revolt by a coalition of class forces, (certainly >fostered by the West) against a transitional form of oligarch capitalism >linked with the SPS. Kostunica: "Communism is falling. It

Structural changes in Yugoslavia

2000-10-08 Thread Chris Burford
While electoral changes may not be as great as the west would like to believe, some detail is emerging about changes to the structure of power in Yugoslavia. Sky News reports that the heads of a number of industries have been sacked, and that all civil servants serving the federal parliament h