Re: Re: Was Eurocentrism (but might have been West Asian)

2000-09-30 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/30/00 12:02:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << If Martin Luther had come along a century and a half later, there would have been no one in western Europe to develop Copernican physics after the trial of Galileo. It's certainly possible that inven

Re: Was Eurocentrism (but might have been West Asian)

2000-09-30 Thread Brad DeLong
>apropos the eurocentrism view of scientific, technological and capitalist >origins, in a muslim forum i asked this question: "What happened to muslim >science?", knowing that it and its accompanying technology were the most >advanced in the world during the middle ages. > >i received a number of

RE: Re: Was Eurocentrism (but might have been West Asian)

2000-09-29 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
yes, but notwithstanding what the author says about western exploitation of w. asian countries, when one considers the cross-fertilization over 1000 years btwn europe and w. asia, the demise of european colonialisation in the region, big oil revenues sloshing around many muslim countries over the

Re: Was Eurocentrism (but might have been West Asian)

2000-09-29 Thread Louis Proyect
>some of these scholars said that about 1000, muslim clerics became more >conservative, didn't want their scientists and technicians, along with >jewish ones scattered among them, medddling with nature any more and had >enough political power to close down scientific investigations. > >flaws in my

Was Eurocentrism (but might have been West Asian)

2000-09-29 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 12:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:2437] Was Eurocentrism There's another aspect to this notion of Eurocentrism. While I would tend to side with Brenner's thesis about the importance of class relations in the emergence of capitalism in Eu

Re: Was Eurocentrism

2000-09-28 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 9/28/00 12:52:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << So in effect the two sides of this debate is that Brenner's explanation for the rise of Europe has great merit but so does the argument made by other marxists from the "periphery" (see also David Washbr

Was Eurocentrism

2000-09-28 Thread Anthony DCosta
There's another aspect to this notion of Eurocentrism. While I would tend to side with Brenner's thesis about the importance of class relations in the emergence of capitalism in Europe (Wallerstein is also Eurocentric in that respect but relies on mercantile trade as the driving force), there is