Re: [PEN-L] "Your power is turning our darkness to dawn..."

Michael Perelman writes: Tom, over and above the hours of work, how much have you thought about the possibility of reducing the quantity of work within the working day & the tradeoff between the two. what about abolishing the distinction between work and play, so that all "work" involves craft a

Re: [PEN-L] "Your power is turning our darkness to dawn..."

it's a laudable aim to abolish the distinction between work and play, but I don't really see how we're going to get the bogs cleaned, rats killed and sewers unblocked under that sort of a business model. best dd -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Devi

Re: [PEN-L] "Your power is turning our darkness to dawn..."

- Original Message - From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> what about abolishing the distinction between work and play, so that all "work" involves craft and creativity and is something one does voluntarily. (Some of academic work is already that way, BTW.) - That is the model

Re: [PEN-L] "Your power is turning our darkness to dawn..."

Tom, over and above the hours of work, how much have you thought about the possibility of reducing the quantity of work within the working day & the tradeoff between the two. A union carpenter in late nineteenth-century Chicago captured the workers' perspective on this stage of the economy of time.

Re: [PEN-L] the political economy of internet2

Greetings Economists, Eublides sent this article in; December 02, 2004 edition - http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1202/p13s02-stin.html The tangled Internet: Is it time for a new one? By Gregory M. Lamb | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor "One of the ways [the companies] are going to fig

Re: [PEN-L] "Your power is turning our darkness to dawn..."

Michael Perelman wrote, Tom, over and above the hours of work, how much have you thought about the possibility of reducing the quantity of work within the working day & the tradeoff between the two. To answer your question literally: "a lot." That's precisely where the matter beomes interesting.

[PEN-L] Robert Brenner versus Karl Marx

Re: Robert Brenner versus Karl Marx I can't channel Bob today, since for some reason the ether is occluded by bad vibes. But I'd guess that he might use the metaphor that I've used before in pen-l. The destruction of the English independent peasantry and the resulting creation a large proletariat

[PEN-L] Robert Brenner versus Karl Marx

The slave trade, yes, because that's a form of noncapitalist labor that nonetheless produces commodities that enter capitalist circulation - but loot? How would metals and other treasures provide fuel? Wouldn't they be more like an increase of money that doesn't emerge from an increase in productiv

Re: [PEN-L] "Your power is turning our darkness to dawn..."

I wrote: >>what about abolishing the distinction between work and play, so that all "work" involves craft and creativity and is something one does voluntarily. (Some of academic work is already that way, BTW.)<< Ian writes: >That is the model Steve Jobs and others held out for the current cyberta

Re: [PEN-L] "Your power is turning our darkness to dawn..."

- Original Message - From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ian writes: >That is the model Steve Jobs and others held out for the current cybertarians back when Apple was getting started. One look at Microsoft and Electronic Arts as well as the Silicon Valley mesoeconomy and it's fair t

Re: [PEN-L] "Your power is turning our darkness to dawn..."

Ian:>I agree although the claim is contestable and is the source of the usual contentions from various schools of political-economy yada yada. < It's interesting to see social science reduced to "yada yada." >However I was pointing out what Jobs et. al. were asserting. They saw the >breakdown

Re: [PEN-L] "Your power is turning our darkness to dawn..."

- Original Message - From: "Devine, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ian:>I agree although the claim is contestable and is the source of the usual contentions from various schools of political-economy yada yada. < It's interesting to see social science reduced to "yada

[PEN-L] Loren goldner article

Loren Goldner just posted a new article "The 'Dollar Crisis, and Us" on the Break Their Haughty Power web site at http://home.earthlink.net/~lrgoldner -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University michael at ecst.csuchico.edu Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901

Re: [PEN-L] "Your power is turning our darkness to dawn..."

Fourier said that kids like to do dirty work. On Sat, Dec 04, 2004 at 04:22:10PM -, Daniel Davies wrote: > it's a laudable aim to abolish the distinction between work and play, but I > don't really see how we're going to get the bogs cleaned, rats killed and > sewers unblocked under that sort

[PEN-L] "The FBI and Science & Society"

Jim Farmelant posted this to LBO & gave me permission to forwarded it here. The lastest issue (Winter 2004-2005) of Science & Society has an article, "The FBI and Science & Society," by David H. Price, which, using files that the author obtained from the FBI through the Freedom of Information Act,

Re: [PEN-L] "The FBI and Science & Society"

Jim Farmelant posted this to LBO & gave me permission to forwarded it here. from the 1940s to the 1960s, the FBI, apparently, viewing Marxist theorizing as almost as dangerous to national security as outright Marxist activism. Of course, the FBI consider theorizing dangerous because it was directl

[PEN-L] Electronic Voting for Racial Equality

Electronic Voting for Racial Equality: -- Yoshie * Critical Montages: * "Proud of Britain": and

[PEN-L] another lucy komisar article about offshore finance

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11657 -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Re: [PEN-L] "Your power is turning our darkness to dawn..."

- Original Message - From: "Eubulides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> the idea of ending the work/play distinction isn't possible under capitalism, except for a small number of elite workers such as academics. - I agree although the claim is contestable and is the source of the usual contentions

Re: [PEN-L] What the bleep do we know ? movie on quantum mechanics

at least according to the Buddha, My god can sit longer than your god. Dan

Re: [PEN-L] What the bleep do we know ? movie on quantum mechanics

no he's right, there is an objective reality. I think I went there once. Yeah, but how do you know for sure? You just think you did, and you're telling us about it. Why should we believe you? If you see it, you may believe it. If you touch it, you may know it. But if you heard about it, you just

[PEN-L] Farmers and the election Part 2

I put a story about this announcement on our website's ag news page. You might ck there once in a while, in a pinch, for my perspective on big farm news. http://www.northplattebulletin.com/NorthPlatteBulletin/stories/index.asp?pageID=29&storyID=4829 (My brother edits an alternative regional newspap